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Starkiller/Vader/Ti vs. Revan/Malgus/Satele
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Vader and Malgus are almost equals in my book, with Vader having the edge in overall skill but Malgus being able to counter that with lightning, an ability which Vader lacks. In the end, I think I'd go with Vader.

Revan is superior to Starkiller in terms of everything but saber skills, I think I'd side with Revan.

Satele and Ti are close, but Satele has shown a little more imo and she battled a Starkiller that was nowhere near his peak.


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Meh, I think Satele can at least hold off Ti long enough. I personally have Malgus above Starkiller and I remember Tempest that you told me once that you have Revan above Vader and that was before SoR even came out. Since I have Revan > Vader as well(unless your opinion changed), I'm siding with team 1.


You mean 2.


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Whatever, same thing.


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Well, aside from teleportation, Starkiller has better force feats than Revan imho.

Vader and Malgus are close but I'll give the edge to Vader.

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Starkiller isn't that much better than Vader though, especially in sabers since Starkiller fought a Vader who significantly improved later. And everyone seems to think that Revan is better than Vader and Malgus.


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Probably team 1.

Vader edges out Revan via skill, telekinesis, and speed, Starkiller would lose to Malgus in a duel but beat him with telekinesis, and Ti is somewhat more skilled than Satele.


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Meh, I think Satele can at least hold off Ti long enough. I personally have Malgus above Starkiller and I remember Tempest that you told me once that you have Revan above Vader and that was before SoR even came out. Since I have Revan > Vader as well(unless your opinion changed), I'm siding with team 1.


I personally do have Revan > Vader (barely). But I also have both Starkiller and Vader > Malgus. What makes you put Malgus ahead of 'Killer?

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I personally do have Revan > Vader (barely). But I also have both Starkiller and Vader > Malgus. What makes you put Malgus ahead of 'Killer?


I just consider his feats to be a bit exaggerated for the sake of making a fun video game. Also, when he was fighting Vader, he was enraged like a mad dog(unless there is any information that contradict this) not to mention that wasn't peak Vader.

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I just consider his feats to be a bit exaggerated for the sake of making a fun video game. Also, when he was fighting Vader, he was enraged like a mad dog(unless there is any information that contradict this) not to mention that wasn't peak Vader.


That's pretty weak. What about TFU's feats are "exaggerated" versus SWTOR's? Also, how is that relevant since none of it is canon anymore. It's all Legends and Legends has never been compatibly portrayed. 👍

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Well the fact that it's literally called "The Force Unleashed" should be a bit of a clue. wink


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Problem is, it's all non-canon though. So disregarding feats from any source on the ground that it's out-of-alignment with "canon" depiction is moot. thumb up

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I thought it was non-canon. confused


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que?

The Legends/canon bifurcation means that the distinction is useless unless we're arguing 'canonical' depictions. But since this is about peak Legends characters, TFU is unquestionably valid here.

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That's pretty weak. What about TFU's feats are "exaggerated" versus SWTOR's? Also, how is that relevant since none of it is canon anymore. It's all Legends and Legends has never been compatibly portrayed. 👍


What about the ending of the game? Vader being held by the rebels etc. Doesn't it seem ridiculous to you at all?

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Ti is DEFINITELY the weak link here. She loses with little difficulty to Satele, Malgus and Vader is a tough one to call.

Starkiller beating Vader is a good feat, as well as being slowed down by clones, I'd say he edges out Revan ever-so-slightly...

NOW, if this was Galen Marek, there'd be no doubt in my mind that he'd beat Revan in almost all rounds, but this version edges him out ever-so-slightly.


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Starkiller > Revan, Vader = Malgus, Ti > Shan.


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What about the ending of the game? Vader being held by the rebels etc. Doesn't it seem ridiculous to you at all?


Compared to other Legends developments, that's pretty mild. What other reasons do you have for disregarding TFU?

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Compared to other Legends developments, that's pretty mild. What other reasons do you have for disregarding TFU?


Other than hating Starkiller and the fact that he beat Vader? I guess an argument can be made based on the circumstances of that fight.

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