No, because it meant he was the weakest spectre as Spectre was forcibly bound to Crispus allen after DOV. Have you even read the comics?
As if that excuses him standing around for 6 comics and doing nothing.
So does Spectre. You're just hating though.
Johns did nothing to Spectre. The main writers of Spectre are Dematteis and Ostrander. Johns didn't do anything with the spectre except making him job.
Do I? You're the one who thinks just one writer makes Spectre's average trash.
Your entire argument is irrelevant as one writer doesn't makes or breaks an average of a character.
And it caught Presence's attention. When was the last time Galactus caught TOAA's attention? Having trouble is one thing. Grabbing the attention of Supreme being's attention is whole another matter.
I already said he jobbed against Parallax.
Beats getting almost killed by two planets though.
Which is a shit argument to begin with.
Who gives a shit about what you think? The writer was Geoff Johns and he doesn't loves Spectre enough to overhype him.
Haha, what? Did you even read Infinite Crisis and how Alexander Luthor tricked him into providing energy for multiverse? More than what Galactus can say though.
Yeah, the guy who owned everyone in that arc be it Anti-monitor or Life Entity. Real low stuff right there.
Riiiight.
Hahaha, what? Do you even know how spectre works? It is limited by what the host can channel of Logoz. Crispus didn't know about his power. He realized it and remade creation at the end.
You are full of shit as always. I don't even know why I bothered.
"Unmake the creation". "Let what was un-made be reformed".
Yeah, go suck a dick bran.
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Again who the **** cares? It was made clear that using ALE Spectre unamde the creation in Darkseid's image and then restored it. You don't like it, nobody gives a shit.
Hahahaha, the nerve of this guy.
Spectre beats Galactus. Simple as that. To even say otherwise is just shit. Heck, just look at their common appearances in DC vs Marvel or JLA/Avengers where Krona fist****ed Galactus like a two bit whore.
Who cares? Galactus isn't Nekron.
Heh, just lulzworthy. Go on about how awesome Galactus is though while defending his honor from Bendis.
Have you? I blatantly posted the scans later which you ignored. I repost them here. Will you ignore them?
Probably.
But if that's all Bendis did, then I'm not sure of the point of bringing it up?
Am I supposed to be upset that Galactus stood around or something? If only. It was a shitty event. But Bendis had his hands on Galactus a lot less than Johns had his hands on Spectre again.
I'm not hating, I'm disappointed in what became of him. He became a giant joke that has barely anything of note anymore.
Ignoring Johns, what does he have in way of high feats? Day of Vengeance, the Michael fights, a lot of lip service, being fed a ton of power to defeat Anti Monitor, beating Azmodus a couple times, fighting Shathan a couple times, and what, Zero Hour?
Then he has a lot of just average feats, and even a lot of low feats... ignoring Johns.
It's not like I'm just using Johns to bring down his average, it's just that Johns is the one who seeks to do that. It factors in.
I realize he has high feats. But with the amount of low feats Johns has wrote, it's hard to ignore. Ergo, you have to wade through a lot of shit.
Oh yeah, the other higher feat related to DOV, Mxy. But let's see what you think about that:
Yes, you are inventing arguments to try and argue against. You being possibly right in that situation doesn't mean you aren't making shit up. Realize this.
But you think Johns wrote a shitty Spectre so... not relevant?
But the issue is Spectre's average wasn't that great before hand. Once Johns came in it just plummeted. So yes, and considering Johns almost primarily wrote anything involving Spectre since Rebirth to the end of DC... except for that Eclipso "killing" Spectre series... Johns has wrote a lot of Spectre. Which is what I said.
Come on. Spectre is directly connected to God. You're being ridiculous.
And it caught Presence's attention because Spectre was being a naughty boy, not because he was threatening Presence's power or whatever the hell you're trying to argue here. I don't think anyone knows what you're tactics are anymore. They're pretty nonsensical.
What happened was the equivalent of a bad parent ignoring his ass hole son until his son severely hurt someone.
It's meaningless. It has nothing to do with power, besides the actual battles.
God didn't go "Hey, you guys know this Spectre guy that I in no way directly interfere with in comics all the time? Yeah, him, get this, this guy just killed Nabu! Yeah, NABU! See if he can do that, there's no telling what he could do to me! I better directly interfere like I totally don't do all the time, because I in no way am a large part of Spectre's history."
So why would you even bring it up? That entire issue was a complete embarrassment to Spectre.
He helped pull apart Parallax. That's it. It was made pretty clear in that issue he was below him.
Are you that desperate to try and make Spectre not look like a divine Rhino or something?
Considering those planets with a nuke almost killed a dimension eater...
Probably not. Also literally stated to be weakened at the time.
I'm waiting a couple months down the line for you to slowly phase out the "he unmade all creation" though and move on to the next "super feat".
You give a shit what I think. You blatantly tried to goad me into an argument and now you're realizing you made a mistake. So naturally the best course of action is to try and discount my opinion... which you wanted in the first place.
Spectre isn't even close to God's level. You're using a retarded statement to try and prove a point.
"The writer doesn't love Spectre, so naturally I can use hyperbole from that writer."
What a sack of shit of an argument. Even your blatant lying about the "unmaking" creation doesn't hold a candle to this. And you later post it again in an effort to lash out at me too. You obviously think highly of it.
It's ****ing hyperbole. Galan knows it, I know it, you know it. It has literally no basis and Spectre is absolutely nothing in face of God. Why would God be scared of a loose hair?
Oh I see your problem here. That's my mistake, I assumed I didn't have to talk in a way a baby would understand.
I'm merely stating that you're arguing one universes worth of magic is enough to bring back 52 universes worth of power. Which is why I figured I wouldn't have to even reread the story. Normally I do that when responding, but you're so non threatening that I didn't figure the need to do so. Adapt to the nonsense you say... that you plan out for apparently as evidenced by your repost here from another thread, but we'll get to that...
It was such a cluster**** of random things that it's hard to pinpoint it down as one single thing.
Basically, do you assume Anti-Monitor had the matter and anti matter of the universes inside him in the first place?
Which seems likely considering the fuel was only energy used to power that. Then it was Brother Eye that basically reshaped the universes from memory. Then Alex needed an access point to accomplish this outside the tower as well.
In a short version account of it.
I'm not denying it was a lot of energy, I'm just saying it enough of a cluster**** to make it questionable.
Hell, maybe I'm wrong, and it only supplied the energy needed to find the universes.
I'm genuinely not sure. And I don't care to read too far into it as it's completely irrelevant to Spectre anyway.
IE, everytime he killed or released another being, he had more power freely floating around that he could manipulate to his own needs. And that's if he wasn't absorbing it. Everyone prior to his Shazam fight was really small fries in contributing that magic to the universe. Once the Rock of Eternity broke and he started killing lords of Chaos and Order... he was freely using the lingering power to do so.
Not only was it not his power that accomplished the Anti-Monitor fueling, but he was using that power to accomplish his goals.
It's not relevant to Spectre. It was not all Spectre's power that killed these beings, and it was not Spectre's power that contributed to this.
He killed a lot of weaker beings than him that added to a lot of free floating power in the universe. I don't even understand why this is a point. This is coming from the guy who tries to downplay any "chain reaction" feat.
He did not supply the power. He did not overcome that power all at once. He went on a murder spree. That's it. If someone kills 100 hookers over the course of a career it doesn't mean he can kill a 100 hookers at once.
Nekron has no soul
Spectre can't pass judgement on him because he has no soul
Spectre is useless against him
Galactus has no soul
Somehow this isn't relevant information to use? I'm not drawing correlations between Galactus' power and Nekron's, I'm only pointing out similarities in the two characters.
Think before you post.
And Crispus was only limited because he was holding back the power in that series. It wasn't God, it was literally him holding back the power. In fact, you even said it was explained in this series.
And this is where it was explained. Don't backtrack now because I didn't just blindly take your word for it and looked at the comic.
But do explain how you're getting mad because I posted these two statements to show how Spectre was weaker:
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That is how it was explained that Crispus was weaker in that series. And your argument is that he remade all creation. If we use the story as to why Spectre was weaker, then he was weaker because he exacted vengeance one soul at a time. Dealing with all creation overrides that. IE, Spectre was not weaker when he accomplished the feats. You are wrong. The proof you ****ing pointed to shows you're wrong.
This is fun.
The irony in this is palpable. You're literally making up your own interpretation and ignoring all evidence just because it said ALL CREATION included other universes in a statement not even relevant to the feat. It never said Spectre was remaking all creation. It just said creation, and it mentioned a world everytime.
But yeah, reposting the feat and an unconnected statement certainly prove your point. Where in the unconnected statement did it say he recreated all reality? "This statement was in the comic, and although it was never applied to the feat or anything else besides Crispus' location in the multiverse, it definitely means he recreated it all. I'm mad you don't blindly swallow my shit. So mad."
Serious question, but can you not read? Like I forgive the initial assumption of the feat because it wasn't presented to you so in your face like. But I can't see how you still think I'm full of shit when I actually used scans instead of twisting things.
But anyway, let's go through this because we can't have you reposting choice scans from things I already posted and twist them to mean in someway what you're saying.
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It's pretty obvious this only pertained to a planet. Once you accept this, which you won't because you have a blindfold on right now... but if you accept this, we can move on to the implication that it was only the ALE being spread.
To reiterate, when Cain told Spectre to do this, he told him to remake the world. Open and shut case. Open like your mouth, and shut like your mouth never does. Case, like how hard your head is.
Why are you so mad anyway? You don't even like Spectre. You just hate Marvel.
Or are you mad because you're wrong. Like the lashing out came out of nowhere. I thought I was pretty civil here. All I did was say Spectre jobs. Are you mad because of Spectre, or because you are so plainly wrong?
I'm going with the latter. Sad showing really. It's also funny how the biggest part of your point being so plainly disproven is only met with insults and a repost. I don't even know why you would reply at all with such a sad showing.
"Who cares... just accept my interpretation please."
But yes, who cares when we extend your no limits fallacy to include things it should? I know you don't since making it look meaningless tries to diminish my point, but it's what it is. If Spectre remade all of creation based on a non related statement then why would that not include... everything? Michael, Lucifer, Hell, Radiant, etc.
Who cares lol, lol lol, who cares? Come on, the desperation from you is plain to see. I don't get how one who prides himself on seemingly misinterpreting every comic can make desperation so obvious to see. If only your reading ability matched people's ability to read your desperation. You'd be in tip top shape.
Maybe so, but Spectre doesn't beat Galactus based off your argument that's for sure.
Also, if it's so obvious, why would you even try to goad me out? Maybe I should go into a Superman vs Odin thread and start calling you out. Yeah, because that makes sense.
lol at JLA Avengers. The arc specifically not supposed to be used here is being used. Surprise.
Anyway, I followed your quicklink. Apparently you've been using that feat since last year in an attempt to get one over on me:
I wasn't even on for like 3 months during that time. It's hilarious how long you've tried to "get me" with this totally cool feat that would be totally relevant to anything because of my longstanding obvious opinion on Spectre vs Galactus.
And you've known about this for over half a year and you still misinterpret it so bad? What's wrong with you?
Like I said, you just make up shit in your mind and start arguing with that. Because I'd have an issue with Spectre actually recreating reality or something? I don't know what your focus was with this but it's entirely pathetic.
And it's not like Galactus hasn't fought beings with the ability to actually re-create "all" reality anyway:
Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing. That pesky Bendis really has been a focal point of mine lately in regards to Galactus.
But anyway, I find the parallels between this argument and DOV too interesting to pass up.
You have the foolish being lashing out at every chance
You have Daddy just sitting idly by while baby keeps doing shit to get his attention, or just in general ruin everything.
Then you have baby going too far, and now Daddy has to come and put him back in his place.
You're the baby. I don't even know why you would call me out. You know exactly what's going to happen. I don't even know why you would try and call me out since October on this feat for whatever reason. Like... what sort of shit is this?
I don't know if I pissed you off or something recently, but this is quite fun for me. You continue trying too, and I've largely ignored your shit because I don't dislike you anymore, but with all the tears you're flinging at me, all it does is make me happy.
You try and be civil and someone has an emotional roller coaster because of it. Tsk tsk. This coming days after you cried about Celey insulting you.
Maybe next time I'll just go on an insult train to make your tears worth it.
Also "Here's a picture of hyperbole that is completely unsupported and against a being that would finger flick Spectre's head off. Eat a dick, I'm mad."
Should have knew something was up when Abhi was goading me, oh well this isn't bad.
Quan though...
You gotta seep to quan's level to have any hope there. You can't talk sense into him because that's for your and everyone else's benefit. I forgot how bad Quan is simply put.
The guy's been arguing with a word for word repost for like 7 pages straight in the movie vs. I just... don't know.
What do you expect? The guy has been around ~8 years, and has ~116,000 posts to his name. That works out to ~40 posts every single day of that 8 years... Or ~14,500 posts every year.
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