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Kazenji
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That maybe true, but what if it was Marvel's overall direction to fault? Wouldn't be the first time a director has disagreed with them.


Possibly could be it

Black also has plans to do a new Doc Savage movie.

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IM was one of the best of the current crop of superhero films. The final fight was not the greatest but still an OK end to a good film.

IM2 and 3 were nothing but fail. Hard to say which was worse, both were bad for different reasons.

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I actually didn't hate IM2 as much as most. It was like they pumped in the action that IM1 lacked. Its clearly a lot more popcorn than IM1 but when its on TV I tune in.


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I'm in the same boat with JayDaDon for IM2.


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IM2 actually made me laugh a lot on repeated viewings. Justin Hammer as the evil Tony Stark wannabe was fracking hilarious. And at least Rhodey got his fair share of action in it as well.

I guess IM2 was more of an initial disappointment (given the quality of the first) than anything else.

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I didn't like the young Justin version. It was to me *almost* as bad as the Mandarin twist. Turning a formidable villain into a joke, ffs.

Not a fan of mixing Whiplash and Dynamo, either. Rourke's performance was good, though.

Anyway, IM 2 was a watchable movie, seen it a few times... I doubt I'd be able to rewatch the entire IM 3 without puking.


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Well they've fixed up the Mandarin problem, Now its up to Marvel going ahead and actually using the real one in a 4th movie.


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Not a fan of mixing Whiplash and Dynamo, either.



Yeah that was weird.

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Well they've fixed up the Mandarin problem,



Unfortunately that doesn't fix IM3 as a movie.

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Unfortunately that doesn't fix IM3 as a movie.


Well said.


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I feel like this thread goes in with the conclusion that IM3 was the only good IM or successful IM movie. That we all automatically should come to the conclusion that the solo series as whole has been mediocre and a failure with the first being the only exception. I do not agree with that conclusion.

While personally I do think IM 1 was my favorite IM2 I thought was also good and was successful in terms of box office revenue.

Of course in terms of box office revenue IM3 blows them out of the water but I know the argument that even if it made money it was a poor quality movie.

Honestly I've only ever seen IM3 once so I do not know if my opinions on the movie would change with repeat showings. Still I do not think IM3 was a terrible movie. Yeah there were things I did not like but it also had some good parts as well specifically it had good humour and high production value. Overall I would not rank it as a poor movie. More of an average movie that did exceptionally well at the box office.

Now obviously this is pretty subjective for the most part and I'm not trying to invalidate people's dislike of the movie. However I just want to point out not everyone shares those opinions. Or think that this movie series was overall a disappointment.


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^ We are aware of that. Firefly always defends IM3.

But at the very least I'm sure the majority would agree the IM sequels were a big step down from the Original.

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^ We are aware of that. Firefly always defends IM3.

But at the very least I'm sure the majority would agree the IM sequels were a big step down from the Original.
Probably but once again that does not make them failures.


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Probably but once again that does not make them failures.



Well financially speaking the trilogy was obviously a massive success.

But in terms of quality(which is of course subjective) it was a massive failure to many of us. Failure to meet our expectations (which can sometimes be unfair). But for me personally, just failure to entertain, and instead making me facepalm.

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Tony in Avengers 1 was like Iron Man 3 we deserved.

Someone from KMC said it (or something similar to that), IIRC, and I totally agree.


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Tony in Avengers 1 was like Iron Man 3 we deserved.

Someone from KMC said it (or something similar to that), IIRC, and I totally agree.



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Well financially speaking the trilogy was obviously a massive success.

But in terms of quality(which is of course subjective) it was a massive failure to many of us. Failure to meet our expectations (which can sometimes be unfair). But for me personally, just failure to entertain, and instead making me facepalm.
Entirely subjective and from your own perspective.


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Entirely subjective and from your own perspective.


Which is exactly what I said you troll.

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Which is exactly what I said you troll.
I am glad to see you cocmeded then to me. smile


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Heck Avengers AOU completely ignored the ending of IM3.


No.


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