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Why would supes see thanos as slow?,surfer didn't see him as slow,and why do you think thanos is slow in the first place?

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Why would supes see thanos as slow?,surfer didn't see him as slow,and why do you think thanos is slow in the first place?
Shit logic and refusal to care about any opinion not their own typical h1 ranting


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no one mentioned speed blitz in the whole thread. I didn't. My argument is that Superman's reflexes allows him to view much slower things in slow motion. If that's garbage to you then you shouldn't be debating at all.

You can't randomly say two beings are roughly equal in strength because you want it to be so. You have to prove it. If one being has exerted higher forces than another then he is stronger "by feats". This is common sense.
I used to say that going by feats then Superman has exerted more than a million times more force than Thor. For now, it's more than a hundred times more.


It's nothing wrong with that since characters fight against and do ok against characters tens to hundreds of times stronger than them a lot in comics. Just look at Thing vs. Hulk or Colossus vs Hulk. Doesn't mean that Hulk isn't tens to hundreds of times stronger than either.

If I spout nonsense then it is extremely easy to prove me wrong.


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Thanos beats 2 superman either DCNU or Pre reboot pretty convincingly. After that it gets trickier

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Why would supes see thanos as slow?,surfer didn't see him as slow,and why do you think thanos is slow in the first place?


Because Superman and Flash ate a dinner at super speed and the humans didn't react.


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Why did you ignore my PM carTer?

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Best of their abilities doesn't mean how h1 wants them to


You are right it means they fight..to the best of their abilities. So now a simple question: Is high end super speed one of Superman's powers, yes or no?

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Why would supes see thanos as slow?,surfer didn't see him as slow,and why do you think thanos is slow in the first place?


Lack of serious speed feats, for one thing.

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Because Superman and Flash ate a dinner at super speed and the humans didn't react.


Yep and there are other times Supes does stuff like this. One time inside the Daily Planet when it was full of people he went and did something at superspeed, but appeared to everyone in the room as if he had not moved at all. I say he did "something" at super speed because I forget the specific thing, but it was like typing on a typewriter or doing some kind of job in the planet quickly.


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Pfft as if Thanos hasn't dealt with superspeed if his reflexes aren't enough his shields and aoe attacks make up for it. If Thanos is restrictioned to his physicality I can see 1 Superman beating him anything else is Thanos' fight to lose.


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Why would supes see thanos as slow?,surfer didn't see him as slow,and why do you think thanos is slow in the first place?


superman has better combat reflexes and perception. surfer is like usain bolt and superman is like bruce lee. he has the speed feats to back it up

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Why did you ignore my PM carTer?


Didn't get it. What did it say?


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You are right it means they fight..to the best of their abilities. So now a simple question: Is high end super speed one of Superman's powers, yes or no?



Lack of serious speed feats, for one thing.



Yep and there are other times Supes does stuff like this. One time inside the Daily Planet when it was full of people he went and did something at superspeed, but appeared to everyone in the room as if he had not moved at all. I say he did "something" at super speed because I forget the specific thing, but it was like typing on a typewriter or doing some kind of job in the planet quickly.


Key word, humans.


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Pfft as if Thanos hasn't dealt with superspeed


I'm struggling to recall any serious feats. He certainly has fought and defeated beings who have super speed as a power, but as was just pointed out with Superman..people with super speed don't always use it and that goes triple for people who have other high end powers besides speed.

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if his reflexes aren't enough his shields and aoe attacks make up for it. If Thanos is restrictioned to his physicality I can see 1 Superman beating him anything else is Thanos' fight to lose.


Well yes this is true. Just like Silver Surfer has better reflexes then Thanos, but it didn't mean a damn thing because he just can't hurt him.


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Originally posted by Genii96
Why would supes see thanos as slow?,surfer didn't see him as slow,and why do you think thanos is slow in the first place?
There are a bazillion levels of super speed, all faster than humans. Bullets are invisible to humans yet orbital speeds is many times faster. Light is many times faster than even that.
Thanos has super speed (faster than a human) but more on a low level. I would say Spidey is faster than Thanos. Probably Gamora is too.


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Pfft as if Thanos hasn't dealt with superspeed if his reflexes aren't enough his shields and aoe attacks make up for it. If Thanos is restrictioned to his physicality I can see 1 Superman beating him anything else is Thanos' fight to lose.
His shields can be crumbled after sufficient powerful attacks. Thanos can't attack while shields are up. He will drop them to attack. That's when he will be open. Can Thanos aoe attacks even harm Superman? Aoe attacks are weaker than straight blasts since in straight blasts all the power is concentrated in one beam vs. Spread out and diluted in aoe attacks.
Plus Superman has the ability to vibrate through energy attacks whenever he wants.


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His shields can be crumbled after sufficient powerful attacks. Thanos can't attack while shields are up. He will drop them to attack. That's when he will be open. Can Thanos aoe attacks even harm Superman? Aoe attacks are weaker than straight blasts since in straight blasts all the power is concentrated in one beam vs. Spread out and diluted in aoe attacks.
Plus Superman has the ability to vibrate through energy attacks whenever he wants.
Yeah whatever. 1 Superman isn't enough to beat Thanos pre or post boot unless Thanos is gimped. I would say 3 Supermen would be enough to get a solid majority against a non gimped Thanos


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Yeah whatever. 1 Superman isn't enough to beat Thanos pre or post boot unless Thanos is gimped. I would say 3 Supermen would be enough to get a solid majority against a non gimped Thanos
In comics you may have a case but in a forum characters fight to the best of their abilities. Superman's speed and reflexes will be a factor, as well as his formidable power.


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In comics you may have a case but in a forum characters fight to the best of their abilities. Superman's speed and reflexes will be a factor, as well as his formidable power.
Yeah you already said that stop trying to force your way of thinking on to others I stand by my position get over it and ignored.


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Yeah you already said that stop trying to force your way of thinking on to others I stand by my position get over it and ignored.
You mean the correct way of thinking. Having super reflexes and speed is functionally equivalent to perceiving time in slow motion. If you disagree then either you are in denial or don't understand basic common sense. It's too great of a power and MUST be ignored at times for the sake of the plot. Time manipulation is a *****.


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what are your thoughts on durability?
Thanos is more durable imo even without shields


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Not against blunt force he's not more durable. I'll give him the durability edge against energy attacks though.


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