Just because Toriyama created Broly, doesn't make it canon. Broly is the LDSS of legend, canon story telling proves he wasn't.
It was never once stated that Broly destroyed a Quadrant, all the narration said was that in an instances millions of voices were silent. Not 100% accurate but something along those lines.
Samething with Buu.
You need to stop asking us to prove a negative. If you're claiming that Broly or Buu destroyed a whole Solar Sytstem, then bring proof instead of he said she said.
Once again you say something dense and miss the point. I didnt say Broly was canon I said the creator of the series created him and approved what the movie displayed. Which foreshadowed what he thought about the characters and the direction he was going to take them. If galaxy busting was out of the question for dragonball characters he wouldnt have let them have Broly do it, it was a precursor to what we are seeing now. Which is they will keep getting stronger, now the creator has introduced universe busters, if it continues next there will be multiverse busters.
Im not going to argue with you about what the movie clearly shows. My eyes work and I dont need to discredit them because im uncomfortable with what they show. He blew most of the south quadrant and its clear to see, you have to jump through hoops and tell us not to believe our eyes in order to say otherwise. Buu was shown doing similar but we dont know how long it may have taken. Theres is nothing to prove the only argument otherwise is totally dependent on canon which is always the last refuge of those with a losing argument. Cell level energy is canonically capable of solar system busting you nincompoop. Buu is many times stronger than cell canonically. Where these characters are now is many times stronger than Buu. Logically no one should have a problem believing a stated universe buster at this point in the series can universe bust. But you people are so vested in semantic based arguments that you want to hold on to any shred of doubt you can raise. Like I said, just as you people claimed Cell couldnt solar system bust and said everyone in the story was wrong or a liar only for it to be canonically confirmed, we will see the same thing repeat with universe busting now. and then you people will continue the same exact tactics and deny and doubt the next level the characters reach until they hit another plateau, rinse wash repeat.
But Broly never busted a Galaxy... He destroyed it bit by bit but after the Intro where we see that he is destroying it, bit by bit, Gokus IT to the southern Galaxy, to a planet where everything is destroyed, the planet is still there though as is the rest of the system. So I don't know where you get the Galaxy Buster thing from.
On another sidenote. Can you show me the vid or scans where Beerus busts a Universe?
I think he can do it, like Broly with the Galaxy, bit by bit, planet by planet, but not in a single blast. Every herald would be able to do the same, especially in a Universe that has the size of the DB U.
I don't have anything against Goku, I really like him, he is one of the better Superman clones imo, with some influences of Journey to the West and the fighting techs copied from Fist of the North Star, he is an amazing char but he still has a long way before he will operate on the levels of comic chars like SS, Superman or Thor.
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Last edited by Prof. T.C McAbe on Aug 26th, 2015 at 08:58 AM
Yep. Remember, Cell is billions of times weaker than Buu and Cell during the ONSET OF his kamehameha had enough power to shed a solar system. Shouldn't be questionable if Buu could take out a Galaxy. Good post overall. Broly did shed a Galaxy casually and during his first form and Buu is billions of times stronger. Galaxy busting is easy for DBZ characters.
Cell is SSJ2 teir while Buu is SSJ3 teir. That's a difference of 4x. Where the f*ck are you getting "billions" from? Stop trying to make your stance better by saying stupid things carver. You're just making yourself look even more like a biased fan boy
You are better than this. All you have to do is BO-LIEVE!!!!
I think Cell was in the process of charging his SS buster when he made the statement. Like "this attack will destroy the entire solar system!". Doesn't mean he made it stronger, just means he was stating how powerful his blast would be
Makes sense. Think about it though. Even when he unleashed that attack, he still was hellava powerful. Hell, an argument could be made that he was just as powerful as he was before launching that attack. I don't think that attack was his all, but, I will not overstep the bio. I will leave as is.
Even if it wasn't his absolute all, there's nothing to indicate he could do a great deal better. For all we know, his max is our solar system and one more planet. There's nothing to suggest he could bust two solar systems let alone a galaxy
Power level stopped being relevant since the Frieeza, early Android Saga. They never onced mentioned that Cell was billions times weaker than Buu. Vegeta was SSJ2 plus the Majin boost when he fought Kid Buu.
Cell was a villain, and like all villains they always overestimates there power. Cell, nor anyone in dbz has ever showed the power to wipe out a solar system in one blast.
Perfect Cell was scared when 16 was about to blow himself up. Unles you're claiming that 16 suicide blast was going to destroy the Earth?
Let's say that Super Perfect Cell was Solar System busting, that meant Gohan had to match him to evenly. That meant 2 solar system blast couldn't even damage its sourouding areas.
Also, Super-Perfect Cell was a solar system-buster--this was confirmed in a bio outside of his comment in the manga. Lastly, we don't judge the lethality of blasts in Dragon Ball by the amount of collateral damage they cause. Never have.
Why are you acting like Naruto bios have any weight in this discussion..?
Where Dragon Ball is concerned, bios from canon sourcebooks are perfectly admissible. They only get thrown out if they directly contradict happenings from the manga itself.
Last edited by Galan007 on Aug 26th, 2015 at 03:51 PM
Collateral damage from an attack that didn't even go off.
WTF. It was outright said that Cell is a solar system buster. Don't discredit things just because you dislike the characters. Calm down and focus on American comics.
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