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KMC Tournament - psycho gundam vs Scoobless

Rules

Power Level & Format: 2-character amalgam. Low Herald each.

Post Limit: 5

CIS & PIS is OFF!: We are drafting 2 characters, and its abilities. You the participant take ownership of how said characters & abilities will be realized in combat.

Character Knowledge: Contestants are fully aware the characters drafted, including its history, and weaknesses.
Also the Amalgam can use powers as good as the originals.

Amping Rules: Disallowed. Materials that aid a power (i.e. Jeffries/adamantium) are allowed. Power amping is not (i.e. The Ray + Kara)

Note: Amping is a state of empowerment fueled by some source source, that increases a characters physical prowess or ability.


Tech Creation & Non-Autonomous Constructs/Summons: Low Herald limit.

No you can not summon an entire realm or dimension.

You are in control of the character, but you are also confined to what that character has accomplished historically.

You can't borrow feats from someone else, even if your similar characters.

Example:
X-Man can not Borrow Feats Cable.
G.L. Hal can not Borrow Feats from G.L. John.


Prep: You are given time to raise shields. Otherwise NO prep time.

Creating gear can only take place in the heat of battle, after the bell has rung.

TP: Low Herald

Speed: Up to lightspeed.

Banned Powers: Reality Warp, Time Manip., Duplication, Power Copying, Autonomous Constructs (tech or magic), Memory Retention

Note: Space Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, and the Speed Force is allowed provided that the drafted characters are low herald and below.

Functional Immortals are Banned: Functional immortals such as Lobo, Mr. Immortal, Deadpool are disallowed or voided.


Standard Gear Rule Character comes in with what he is historically known for caring.

Non standard gear must be created you NOT grab it from your lab, and equip yourself with it.

BFR BFR is banned.

Self BFR is only good for phasing.

Good for 1 second. [/B]
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Date: July 20 - August 03
psycho gundam vs Scoobless
psycho gundam: Iron Man & Soranik Natu
Scoobless: Amora, the Enchantress & Ultimate Thor
Location: Earth - Roman Colosseum
Judges: Sin I AM, Blair Wind, long pig


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psycho gundam: Iron Man & Soranik Natu

Prep time

Only have time to raise shields and that's exactly what I'll do.
The Extremis suit's outfitted with zero point energy shielding that blocks Doom magic but I now have access to a lantern ring so adding additional layers of shielding is a snap of the fingers.

Autoshielding that the ring provides was enough to protect John Stewart during his character defining failure:

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-On the field-

"WHO AM I KIDDING? WHEN IT'S BEEF, IMMA GO WITH EVERYTHING LIKE SEASON SALT." -QP


With Tony infused with a trained Lantern he knows automatically that the lantern ring is capable of anything, but first off a rudimentary spherical bubble around the Colosseum but my character and add zero energy shielding, then go to work. You can't get past those shields

Tony remembers everything he's ever created and with the power to make anything imagined material as Soranik did in her first appearance ever without even a second of training. He'll be outfitted in his Extremis suit and over that will be a thick carapace of will power, not too unlike the Hulkbuster concept but with Bleeding edge-like capabilities to boot...basically short of high herald. Let's call it "the Tournament buster".

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The beauty of it is that it will be amorphous and composed of all defensive measures to counter anything thrown his way, and given the vast array of powersets he's gone up against it's safe to say that he can come up with anything. A power ring is the ultimate marriage of his genius and the ability to have it realized in the blink of an eye without having to create it the usual way. With this it just is.

-Mind/body coordination & speed-

Synthetic Spider sense

His computer mind at work operating at the picosecond time frame coupled with his armour's "reflexes" controlled by his mind translate to his will powered creation ability. Sorting through the myriad devices he has created on call will happen in fractions of a second.

With that being said, this is some of the hardware he'll be creating in a short list only cause going in to detail takes too much space and with literally anything being at my disposal that can be problematic. Only the things that need fleshing out will, everything else can show up in another post.

-Scanners-

Covering all of the spectrum and even astral (Dr. Strange's)

-Nanites-

Various functions.(later)

-Energy absorption modules-

For energy absorption on a massive scale

-Cloaking-

Outer surface of the armour can be willed to replicate his stealth armours and exceed them.

My favorite piece of hardware however, the Starktech power drainer will be realized by the ring.
renders himself immune to the drainer With Stark already knowing the antidote and with Soranik's medical expertise + the ring's ability to synthesizing it into his blood stream with the ring should be easy. Here a lantern in Soranik's training class willed atoms to change polarity a nanosecond before an ANTI-MATTER blast could kill him, now judging by how much damage he took the full body transformation would have taken maybe 2 nanoseconds to occur.

Here are characters of all kinds of powersets getting disabled including Mutants (Daken) and an Extra dimensional "deity" which is an analog of an Asgardian (Ares):

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Even Sentry's power was robbed and he's definitely at least as powerful as any amalgam in this tournament:

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It's safe to say my opponents won't be able to function as they hope to during combat to say the least.

[b]-More on nanites[/n]

Tony was able reprogram some on the fly to remove the original effect of making heroes unable to use their powers cause they're "inhibiting the neural sequences that allow us to access those powers".

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Instead he'll create them as they were originally intended and dust the field with them while flying at light speed. Not only will they inhibit that portion of the brain they'll also inflict excruciating pain on my opponents if they try to think.


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"Id"
The Man of Tomorrow

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Diablo Corps

Scoobless: Amora, the Enchantress & Ultimate Thor

The Enchantress & Ultimate Thor
The Ultimate Blond
Vs

Iron Man and some GL chick no-one gives a crap about



Alright, not gonna overload the opening with endless text or overload it with scans, just gonna keep things concise and outline a couple of basic points that should have some impact on the outcome.

Magic:
Yes, oblviously there's gonna be magic in this match, probably a lot of it since I'm working with two gods, one of whom is a sorceress. The point is, Stark hates magic, he doesn't understand it and he doesn't actually believe in it. Also, the good Green Lanterns (Hal, Kyle, John, etc) have shown to have a lot of trouble with magic in hte past, there rings have been removed and had spells placed on them before, so there's an obvious weakness of PGs godless creation against my ass kicking megagod.

If that sounded heretical to anyone I promise I will ask Odin for forgiveness.

Strength:
Let's face it, My guy is stronger than the other guy. Scans will follow for non-believers

Predictibility:
PG uses Iron Man's "power drainer" in EVERY. SINGLE. TOURNEY. EVER.... if the "starktech power drainer" isn't mentioned in his opening post I will publicly apologise, if it is he's shooting himself in the foot ... that little box aint helping him this time.

Willpower:
[/i]"what, you think willpower is your advantage? that's crazy, you're fighting a GL, don't they have out the park willpower?"[/i]
Yeah/No... depends on the GL, Natu isn't Jordan or even Guy and Stark is a freakin' alcoholic with impulse control problems. Adding him to the amalgam should weaken the total willpower considerably.

Truth is, you (PG) have no defence against my magic and your "willpower" will be snuffed out like a candle in a hurricane.

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So that's that in a nutshell ... unless you've got some top notch magical shielding together before the match begins (highly doubtful since you have zero magical power or extreme psi) you are basically my b!tch, I command you to lick my boots, slave!

evil face evil face evil face


But in case anyone is all like "what if he hits you first?" I'll be using my prep to go invisible, like TOTALLY invisible ... so invisible not even Heimdall or Odin could detect me if I was standing right next to them.


I'm fairly sure Heimdall has the best senses in comicdom (below skyfather level anyway) IM has nothing on that.


So, I can't be detected and I can't be "depowered" I can subvert my opponents will and make him my gimp, I simply request PG's amalgam to power down then I bash his skull in ...

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(I knew I had Thor on my team for something)


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Scoobless
sselboocS

Gender: Male
Location: The Scoob Cave

The Enchantress & Ultimate Thor
The Ultimate Blond
Vs

Iron Man and some GL chick no-one gives a crap about


Post #1

Ok, time to trim the fat.

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Originally posted by PG
The Extremis suit's outfitted with zero point energy shielding that blocks Doom magic

You wish..................

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Shields unable to defend against unknown energy source

"He's got me with the magic."

Systems failing
Reboot required

Armor shields down

Sentry saved his ass and took out Doom's shields. You have no defence against magic!
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Originally posted by PG
Autoshielding that the ring provides was enough to protect John Stewart during his character defining failure


Let's face it. Natu aint Stewart, and her ring aint his ring. Power ring rules have changed over the years, they no longer have a full charge for 24 hours and they don't always "auto" shield. Lantern's get hit all the time.

Pretty sure the rules state feats are not interchangeable for Lanterns and the like.

Another thing is the yellow weakness, sure it can be overcome, but it requires extra effort, so I'll have Amora glamour my amalgam, giving Blondy a bright yellow costume, just to make things that little bit harder for you.

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Originally posted by PG
With Tony infused with a trained Lantern he knows automatically that the lantern ring is capable of anything, but first off a rudimentary spherical bubble around the Colosseum but my character and add zero energy shielding, then go to work. You can't get past those shields


Um... you mean "Electro can't get past those shields" ... freakin' ELECTRO??? That's your comparison to my amalgam? Sure, he's got a nifty costume, and with his current power levels he probably could get out of that bubble, but even though he's soon to become the High Meta BZ champion, Electro is no Ult Thor... c'mon man, you know that's not even a remotely close comparison.
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Originally posted by PG
Tony remembers everything he's ever created

Please! I remember every girl I ever kissed, that doesn't mean I know their birthdays or phone numbers. recognising something he constructed ages ago is not the same as remembering every detail of the physics or computer coding.

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Originally posted by PG
not too unlike the Hulkbuster concept but with Bleeding edge-like capabilities to boot...basically short of high herald. Let's call it "the Tournament buster"


Pffft... "Hulkbuster" I think you just jinxed yourself! Pretty sure none of Tony's Hulk (or other) Buster armours have ever proven successful (IN COMICS)

Here's what Thor thinks of "Hulkbusters"


Don't get your hopes up, the bloody nose was from fighting Zarda, an immortal warrior analogue of Wonder Woman (Hyperion's girlfriend) roughly equal to Hyperion in power. Tony was breaking up the fight.
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Originally posted by PG
Synthetic Spider sense

Ugghh... are we really acknowledging that awful drivel? A one time, never repeated, brain fart by Marvel, happily left in the past where it should never have been conceived to begin with.

Thor hit Quicksilver multiple times, QS is faster than SS Stark or Spidey

But it doesn't matter, my all-bases-covered magical invisibility will protect me from your electronic faux Spider-Sense

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Originally posted by PG
My favorite piece of hardware however, the Starktech power drainer will be realized by the ring.
.................
Even Sentry's power was robbed and he's definitely at least as powerful as any amalgam in this tournament:


First of all, using a power to create a machine to disrupt powers is kinda... ass-backwards.
If it works it will shut down the ring, depower your whole amalgam then dissolve itself.
quote:
"but I immunised myself"

The immunisation comes from power generated by the ring, the ring is now shut down, hence the immunisation is non-existant and irrelevant .

This is all jumping to the concusion that Tony remember the exact specs, figures and frequencies of the bloody thing to start with.

Then there's this:
Also the range of the thing is highly questionable, I can produce more scans on that if you proceed with this foolhardy tactic.
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Tazers? seriously? You want to use tazers on Thor??? I raise you!

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I just fried all your nanites, burned out your armour's circuits and gave you brain damage via electro shock therapy.

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But frankly most of this is moot, I gimped you out via magical enchantment from the get go

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Post 1

What Scoobles is saying sounds good but if you slow it down he has things wrong. I don't really do the dissect each sentence thing so I'll just keep it more compact

~3 Things~

1) He Is right about the Magic part but those scans came before the one I put up with the bubble shield standing before Doom. The Sentry debacle happened before that and he used the Crimson bands of Cytorrak, it's not just normal magic. "Unidentified", but blocked nonetheless.

2) Auto-shields, yes. Those are a commonality among lanterns and I have an amalgam of two characters not just Natu, but primarily this is about Tony. It's an explicit showing of ring auto-shielding but willpower can bolster them and Stark has that in spades.. He gets all her training and knowledge of what the ring represents down to what she's witnessed other ring wearers accomplish.

Look at this:

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He's faced off against the Phoenix force, Odin and Thanos with just the will to stand up to them and It's only his genius and determination that he relies on in the end.

He WAS a drunk

3) -The drainer saga-


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Originally posted by Scoobless
First of all, using a power to create a machine to disrupt powers is kinda... ass-backwards.
If it works it will shut down the ring, depower your whole amalgam then dissolve itself.

The immunisation comes from power generated by the ring, the ring is now shut down, hence the immunisation is non-existant and irrelevant .

This is all jumping to the concusion that Tony remember the exact specs, figures and frequencies of the bloody thing to start with.

Then there's this:
Also the range of the thing is highly questionable, I can produce more scans on that if you proceed with this foolhardy tactic.


What you're saying doesn't makes sense, plus the ring isn't shut down it's the biology of the organism that it attacked and if that person is immune then their concentration on the ring is fine, you even showed Strange being immune since he's a Human after all just channeling magic...but guess who isn't a Human channeling magic in this battlezone? Enchantress isn't immune to the drainer like Strange is so other than finding the one powerset that is safe you haven't proven anything. You have two alien deities made of the same stuff as poor Ares is and he was doubled over before the drainer.

This is you, but imagine it's wearing a pretty yellow dress(?)

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You can't stop it, all you can do is feel the burn.

Fighting weaker Iron man's armour with a weaker Thor is moot with that in play, and REAL Iron man fought Odin-force Thor not holding back and did alright anyway. If he had his drainer on him he'd have kicked Thor in his balls


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Old Post Jul 20th, 2015 07:56 PM
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Scoobless
sselboocS

Gender: Male
Location: The Scoob Cave

The Enchantress & Ultimate Thor
The Ultimate Blond
Vs

Green Drunkard


Post #2

quote: (post)
Originally posted by psycho gundam
I don't really do the dissect each sentence thing so I'll just keep it more compact


Cool, I'll try to cut down a bit too. Don't want to bore anyone too much.

The Doom/Iron Man part, that was a focused, directed energy attack, Tony's armour surmises that it's a plasma attack.

The Magic I'm using is .... ethereal in nature, mind to mind, non-physical in every way.

I didn't say he was a "drunk", I said he is an alcoholic, there's a huge difference, the point being that Tony has issues with willpower. Every hero is shown to have strong will (or at least to be stubborn) but I remember when Green Arrow tried to use a ring during Rebirth, he managed one shot which hurt like hell and drained all his strength. Lantern's aren't chosen solely for being stubborn, Tony would never qualify.


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
The drainer saga-

the ring isn't shut down it's the biology of the organism that it attacked

you even showed Strange being immune since he's a Human

but guess who isn't a Human

Oh, I know, I know

*Scoob stretches his hand in the air, eager to answer the question*

.... Soranik Natu!!!, right???

Hoisted on your own petard. stick out tongue stick out tongue stick out tongue stick out tongue

By YOUR definition of the power drainer, Iron Natu would be "doubled over"

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"this doesn't work on every power set"

It blocks some/most powers, but, like Strange, Amora doesn't have any "powers" she just studied the mystic arts, and Asgardian biology is well beyond Stark - even with Richards and Pym helping out; none of them could properly clone Thor so I am somewhat skeptical that he suddenly figured out how to shut off "powers" that aren't actually powers it seems to shut off genetic enhancements, Neither of my guys have any of those.

Aliens, like Natu, are a simple matter of biology, gods are something else entirely.



Again, moot, the range is limited:


The only one close enough to your machine that would be affect is you.
quote:
"I immunised myself"


Perhaps, if the ring could exactly recreate the chemicals ... but even then you'd have to maintain extreme focus on those chemicals AND the power drainer at all times to keep it all functioning, and then there's your GL armour, nanites, shields, stealth, power absorption, etc...

How often do you see Hal Jordan creating that many things at once in the heat of battle? Again, Natu is not Jordan or Rayner, she did her doctor thing once or twice but not while fighting at the same time, there is no way your focus would hold, no one could do all that. It's not just picturing it, it's maintaining extreme focus 100% of the time. Lantern's constructs crack ALL THE TIME in battle when concentration slips.

...not to mention the extremis will act as a low level mock healing factor and burn through those anti-disruptor drugs really bloody fast

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To reiterate, he can't shut down my magic, he has no way of detecting me, I can literally walk right up to him and slap him in the face and he still wouldn't be able to see me.

He has no hope of doing everything he wishes he could and he has no defence against my powers


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Old Post Jul 21st, 2015 04:52 AM
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Gender: Male
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Dos

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Scoobless
The Doom/Iron Man part, that was a focused, directed energy attack, Tony's armour surmises that it's a plasma attack.

The Magic I'm using is .... ethereal in nature, mind to mind, non-physical in every way.
Again, the only aspect of Doom's magic that was problematic was when he summoned the Crimson bands which is a preeetty specific spell. Everything else Doom used before the Crimson bands and after Sentry left including plasma mixed with arcane energies was defended, It was only the bands that caused issues.

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Originally posted by Scoobless
I didn't say he was a "drunk", I said he is an alcoholic, there's a huge difference, the point being that Tony has issues with willpower. Every hero is shown to have strong will (or at least to be stubborn) but I remember when Green Arrow tried to use a ring during Rebirth, he managed one shot which hurt like hell and drained all his strength. Lantern's aren't chosen solely for being stubborn, Tony would never qualify.


Wait what?

Green arrow is a man who rebels against contemporary sophistication in favour of his old school aesthetic. He's so set in his ways that when handed the power to create ANYTHING imaginable he squeezes out... an arrow... You're actually equating him with an inventive genius who through willpower alone did this? (clearly missed)

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And it's not like I've already amalgamated him with a worth ring bearer or anything..... C'mon, man.

Thanks for blowing up this panel for me cause it's been overlooked also.

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Note Spider-man taking the antidote. This is key.
You wrote some stuff but it that scan there already conflicts with it which is kinda confusing me as to how you wrote about how Natu would be effected when taking the antidote precedes activating the drainer. Like it makes you immune.

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Originally posted by Scoobless
"this doesn't work on every power set"

It blocks some/most powers, but, like Strange, Amora doesn't have any "powers" she just studied the mystic arts, and Asgardian biology is well beyond Stark -
Again, Ares was taken out cause again, not immunized.

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lol

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Originally posted by Scoobless



The only one close enough to your machine that would be affect is you.
Click me

Also Dr. Harrow used it in Manhattan and he was a safe distance away from the fight so yeah. Being immunized (all those avengers in the operation theater were taken down by the same drainer before) is what made that sequence there possible.

But minus popping pills the only character spared from the drainer was Mockingbird because she's powerless minus enhancements of any kind:

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Did you catch that? Other than her understandably erroneously attributing Chemistro with the draining effect (more on that later), Clint Barton (formerly hawkeye but known as Ronin at the time) was also affected by the power drainer and he doesn't have any real enhancements going on.

Take your vitamins, Scoobles

Skipped your part here cause it's conjecture and Tony being melded with a worthy lantern that's trained is holding a do-anything-ring that responds to need and affects the atomic structure of an average humanoid sized being in 2 nanoseconds while under duress

I've already contained this fight in mt OP with...

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Originally posted by "Id"
but first off a rudimentary spherical bubble around the Colosseum but my character and add zero energy shielding, then go to work. You can't get past those shields
... to restrict the play field. Don't have to chase your character around when I can constrict the bubble around you.


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Scoobless
sselboocS

Gender: Male
Location: The Scoob Cave

The Enchantress & Ultimate Thor
The Ultimate Blond
Vs

Doc Green
(you don't deserve that name but I thought it was funy stick out tongue)


Post #3

To reiterate - My character is completely invisible to Stark/Lantern

I already showed my ability to hide from even Heimdall and Odin, there is ZERO chance of you EVER detecting me, even if I were standing right in front of you and singing the Asgardian national Anthem

Here's another scan of Tony not understanding magic:

The GL issue:


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
Green arrow is a man who rebels against contemporary sophistication in favour of his old school aesthetic. He's so set in his ways that when handed the power to create ANYTHING imaginable he squeezes out... an arrow... You're actually equating him with an inventive genius who through willpower alone did this? (clearly missed)


Comparing willpower, not imagination, if Ring's only required imagination they wouldn't bother looking for those with extreme willpower, they'd just go recruit kids.

And not missed, ignored, a virtual dreamscape where any thought can be made real is hardly the same as a power ring.

Splitting focus has always weakened GL constructs, if you were solely focuse on the power drainer, I'm sure it would function (but that doesn't mean it would work) if you were just creating nanites, that'd be swell, complex chemical chains that dissovle intothe bloodstream without splitting focus, even for an instant, while in a fight to the death, not so much ... doing it all at once while also creating armour and various other constructs, not a hope in hell.

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You are fully aware that when you drafted Natu you were limited to HER feats... that was made abundently clear in the rules prior to drafting, stop throwing up scans of John stewarrt and others unless they are specific to the rings attributes and not the abilities of the bearer.
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Ares was on the ground because Harrow had just taken out the tech of Osborne's team (including his stolen Iron Man armour) and he fell out of the sky from his faux goblin glider
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But we're going round in circles, there's plenty of doubt placed on the effectiveness of a real drainer and of the creation of a GL powered drainer ... it can only be built on a foundation of "IF"s

But, "IF", it works.... so what?, it's not a KO device, people are groggy and lose their super-powers (if they have been "empowered") but not magic. I can easily get out of range. Both of my characters can teleport: themselves or others, I can drop you or myself at any part of the battlefield I want with merely a gesture.
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Size, distance, dimension... it doesn't matter, Thunderlips ( cool ) can go anywhere, anytime he wants, she truely is the Ultimate Blond
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Originally posted by psycho gundam
I've already contained this fight in mt OP with...

... to restrict the play field. Don't have to chase your character around when I can constrict the bubble around you.


See above. I can be inside or outside your bubble and you'd never know it.

Bubble = yet another distraction from absolute focus on your drainer/immunisation/armour/whatever

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But minus popping pills the only character spared from the drainer was Mockingbird because she's powerless minus enhancements of any kind:

And Strange in the other scan I posted earlier, cause, y'know.... magic!

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So I can't be trapped, on the extreme off-chance his power drainer works (along with his bazillion other constructs which he is "focusing" on) I can simply remove mysely, my opponent or the drainer from the area.

He still can't find me, I can attack with impunity over distance with energy attacks or simply pop up next to him and hammer whack his head clean off (that thing has a blade you know)

I can petrify him, I can mesmerise him, I can put him to sleep (did I show that scan?) I can be anywhere and do anything I damn well please, I'm a freakin' Asgardian super-god, he's just a guy with a drinking problem and ugly jewellery.

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San

Enchantress is cool n all but simply turning off the pleasure/sexual desire centers of the brain as Dr. Soranik Natu did the pain receptors of the brain on the fly can prevent it, not to mention his brain for this is cyberized and not open to mental manipulation as older models were. She's also prepared an attack for mad long to get it potent enough to kill Thor but Vision intervened and she was unable to continue with levels of attack on that level, and vision was up on the next page.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums...zpsrhvgyewm.jpg

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A lessor suit took attacks from Loki rocking a fake Mjolnir

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums...zps8nuni6wb.jpg

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Extremis Iron man fights a pissed off Odinforce Thor during his grand return while he was on a Bill Goldberg-esqe run through classic Thor enemies with feats including taking the total disintegration beam of the dread Destroyer like nothing and fighting a a sky-grandfather whose hits require no less than Thor + Odinforce to withstand
with his only real "low showing" to date being losing round 1 to Loeb-force Red Hulk whose Bill Goldberg tear almost overrode Thor's, till he was 4 shotted (+ a beam)...

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...k09Hulkv306.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...horvsRulk10.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...horvsRulk11.jpg

...which almost killed him, keep in mind he was absorbing Odinforce. Stark took half of that beating..

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/On...Thor25.jpg.html

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/On...Thor26.jpg.html

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/On...Thor27.jpg.html

..without absorbing the lightning as he has before with older models

Not only that but ultimate Iron man's Hulkbuster suit only took minor damage from Thor's lightning and was able to take him on head to head for a bit

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums...zpsi47xuuyl.jpg

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A suit that doesn't hold candle to the 616 Mk-II (which he will realize with the ring) nor the opponent it went up against (who casually owned Loeb-force Red Hulk)

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...sHulk46WWH1.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...ManvsHulk47.jpg

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That + the power drainer running that can take out the Sentry + a "Spider-sense" + stealth camouflage plates + auto shields that can withstand a power battery explosion capable of wiping out black lanterns and a large area

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Lastly, claims of Stark's inability to multitask were baseless when he's done stuff like this, put Reed in check in multiple games of chess simultaneously and with his mind, and I quote "spearhead a hostile takeover of Futurepharm, engineer a system for a cooling system for our next generation rail-gun unit and bid on a very nice ancient cuirass breastplate" all the while remotely piloting his suit to beat the Crimson dynamo like a child performing nanosecond reactionary processes

That plus a lantern that shows potential to be among the best ever

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Old Post Jul 27th, 2015 02:52 AM
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Gender: Male
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The Enchantress & Ultimate Thor
The Ultimate Blond
Vs

Captain Scansalot


Post #4

SCAAAAANNNNNSSSSSSS.........

stick out tongue

So many scans. Thankfully nothing I really need to worry about.


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
Enchantress is cool n all but simply turning off the pleasure/sexual desire centers of the brain as Dr. Soranik Natu did the pain receptors of the brain on the fly can prevent it


To be fair, I'm not a brain surgeon (no, really) but I always figured that slicing open think old think-box would have to be a delicate procedure... even Natu has to get the ring to carefully monitor vital signs and whatnot while she uses all of her focus on not vegetablising that guy.

A surgeon performing surgery on a patient is one thing, but now you want to perform brain surgery on YOURSELF in the middle of a battle against an opponent you can't see.

That's..... just...... extremely helpful, thanks for throwing the match.


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
his brain for this is cyberized and not open to mental manipulation

No, he has the equivelant of an external hard drive built in to him which he can store data on, his brain is still a persons brain. But if you think a little tech can prevent Enchantress' manipulation, check this out:

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
A bunch of scans about Red Hulk that have no relevance to anything in this match

Ok.....
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Originally posted by psycho gundam
A lessor suit took attacks from Loki rocking a fake Mjolnir

If "took" means set on fire and easily discarded (twice) then sure, ok.

Thanks for reminding me of that Thor fight btw.

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
Not only that but ultimate Iron man's Hulkbuster suit only took minor damage from Thor's lightning and was able to take him on head to head for a bit

That suit was specifically designed by Ultimate Tony (not your Tony) to harness Thor's lightning, and he still ripped it apart in about 3/4 panels

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
auto shields that can withstand a power battery explosion capable of wiping out black lanterns and a large area

First off, Natu and Gardner are clearly far from the explosion (which is contained within a dome) so not much of a feat.

Second: "Auto Shields"

Had to be saved by Shazam-lite


Claiming all rings have a standard ability means you open yourself to any feat against any ring, but you can still only use the strengths shown by your specific draft. That is the true weakness of drafting a GL in a tournament.
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Originally posted by psycho gundam
claims of Stark's inability to multitask were baseless


I never said Stark couldn't multi-task, but there's a difference between multi-tasking and mainting pure 100% concentration on multiple tasks at the same time.... now that you have added brain surgery on yourself into the huge list of focus splitting jobs you've given yourself, I feel you are shooting yourself in both feet.

Even experienced Lanterns need to focus without distraction for delicate tasks

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
That plus a lantern that shows potential to be among the best ever

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Pure hyperbole

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I'm starting to lose track of all the tasks you are performing simultaneously, let's make a list:

1. shields
2. armour
3. nanities
4. "power drainer"
5. immunity to said "power drainer"
6. energy dome
7. brain-f**king-surgery on yourself

That's all I remember, but it's still a hell of a lot of things to do all at once.... what if you get distracted?



Using Enchantress' power, I will be subverting your willpower, making it near impossible to make a single construct, never mind a plethora of complex machines and surgerical tools.

And always remember, I am completely undetectable, have a huge freakin' hammer, can totally make you my gimp-slave and can crush your head with my awesome god strength

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Alright so I click on the thread and lo and behold:

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Originally posted by Scoobless
So many scans. Thankfully nothing I really need to worry about.
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You then went on to basically ignore important things which frankly doesn't bother me but hopefully the judges look at my beautiful scannage of such things as the very amped 616 Thor (an already chalked with better feats than Ult.) fighting Tony, but here's some more of Tony fighting Loeb-force Red hulk...

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...Rulk01Hulk2.jpg

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/On...Rulk02.jpg.html

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...ManvsRulk03.jpg

....And only requiring a brief repair sequence after the encounter w/o using any shielding (he'd have additional ring shielding in this tournament)

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/On...Rulk04.jpg.html

Keep in mind this guy was out here punching out the Watcher and casually killing two heralds of Galactus and stealing both of their powers under Loeb's pen.

This next part, though....

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Originally posted by Scoobless
To be fair, I'm not a brain surgeon (no, really) but I always figured that slicing open think old think-box would have to be a delicate procedure... even Natu has to get the ring to carefully monitor vital signs and whatnot while she uses all of her focus on not vegetablising that guy.


I mean, it's not like the guy's head is visible during the procedure and it's not like the writing describes what procedure she's undertaking, right?

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She's actually administering dissociative anesthesia (or a sedative) by voice command in order to do emergency surgery on a fellow who's going to get heart failure via blood loss. No brain surgery at all and I have no idea why you'd think that other than saying everything I post is wrong cause well, tournament. As posted prior, Tony Stark's mind can do like 5 completely unrelated processes simultaneously without any of them impacting the performance of the next AND I provided him operating at the picosecond level which is a fraction of the millisecond his actual suit responded to a thread but right now I'm talking about the 2 nanoseconds it takes to do a body wide atomic transformation, a tad more time than needed to inhibit the brain's function to feel emotion absolutely. You're basing your argument on what you perceive as detractors of Soranik Natu's character but you for some reason are ignoring the amalgamation of the enormously overcompensating mind of Tony Stark. AND she doesn't suck like you want her to (...)

Anyway, Tony is on track to developing his own Green lantern like abilities in the comics, he even replicated the classic boxing glove construct so I mean...it's arithmetic.

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Vision being a synthesoid made to synthesize the biological functions of a human being through synthetic materials w/ the brain patterns of Wonder man who can very much feel emotions like any human during that time.

Your character is vomiting on the ground unable to fight back anyway

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Originally posted by Scoobless

That suit was specifically designed by Ultimate Tony (not your Tony) to harness Thor's lightning
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Already showed Tony absorbing Thor's lightning with a weaker suit and with the revelation that off-brand Tony designed a suit that can absorb off-brand Thor's lighting well..do I even have to finish that sentence? But also zero point energy shields + the ring's energy absorption abilities + the fact that you can't function to begin with to use said lightning....

Also, relegated to just the thousandths of a second reaction speed when he's shown even a fraction of that, he's still 3 hundredths of a second faster than lightning and in that scan that was him performing that feat while splitting his mind 4 ways doing completely separate things without compromise.

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Originally posted by Scoobless
First off, Natu and Gardner are clearly far from the explosion (which is contained within a dome) so not much of a feat.
False

Kyle going towards the area above the large battery the other lanterns including Soranik are fighting Black lanterns (bringing more with him on the chase)

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Note the big dragon skeleton thing above the battery that is right behind Soranik engulfed in the blast

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The now deceased Kyle lays at the ground beneath the large battery and Soranik and the others are flying down to him w/ the battery on-panel, with debris still airborne behind them.

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But it never happened cause tournament, right?

Speaking of the "cause tournament" stance, you then flip flopped and attributing "low feats" (that weren't that low btw) of another lantern onto Soranik Natu when you first stated that Auto shields were not attributable to her ring cause the feat where they were explicitly displayed wasn't negative enough for my cause

"Now what's it gonna be, Mr. Pink?"

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Originally posted by Scoobless
I'm starting to lose track of all the tasks you are performing simultaneously
Don't worry, I'll remember them for you


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.... hit the wrong button .... embarrasment

(this doesn't count as my 5th post btw)

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The Enchantress & Ultimate Thor
The Ultimate Blond
Vs

The Verdant Avenger


Post #5 ~~~ Final Post

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
here's some more of Tony fighting Loeb-force Red hulk...


Ok, so Tony got knocked around a bunch by a brawler, Thor can brawl too, and his hammer hits a hell of a lot harder than a fighter-jet baseball bat (and includes simultaneous EMP)


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
Enchantress is cool n all but simply turning off the pleasure/sexual desire centers of the brain as Dr. Soranik Natu did the of the brain on the fly can prevent it

Basically, you're taking someone whose entire ability comes from their control over their emotions.... and f**king with their brain's ability to process emotions.

You have effectively lobotomised your Green Lantern's "worthiness" right out of your amalgam.

...and that's only IF the procedure is a success, which it won't be because of all the reasons I've already stated; split concentration, multiple constructs, being in a f**king battle, having Enchantress turn you into a lovesick gimp of a slave

---- you say I am misinterpreting you ---- are you claiming that you are in some way drugging yourself? chemical castration? If so you are now creating yet another complex drug out of nothing, which you would, again, need to maintain focus on at all times to have it continue to exist after ingestion... and there's also the concern of a body processing two seperate chemical compounds at the same time; there's a reason Doctor's always ask if you are taking any medication before prescribing you any new meds, they f**k with each other in highly unpredictable ways.

So, it's either self brain surgery, or it's two highly different and highly complex chemicals being willed into existence and maintained at the same time.

And if you have any form of techy self healing, it'll burn those drugs right out of you putting you back to square one - gimpy love slave.


quote: (post)
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Anyway, Tony is on track to developing his own Green lantern like abilities in the comics, he even replicated the classic boxing glove construct

Seriously? THAT = becoming a GL? wink
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Originally posted by psycho gundam
Vision being a synthesoid

Which basically means 100% artificial, unlike Tony's brain, neither one can resist Amora (Magic, like the Enchantress, is a b!tch)

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
blah, blah, blah... lightning... something or other...

I've barely mentioned lightning in this match, I only brought it up as a response to your Tazer tactic to show how ridiculous it was. It was never going to be my go-to move (especially when I thought Vulcan would be in this thing)



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Originally posted by psycho gundam
Note the big dragon skeleton thing above the battery that is right behind Soranik engulfed in the blast

Ok, missed that, but looking at it all again, it seems it's less an "explosion" and more a "massive green willpower energy release" ... the buildings are unaffected, the battery itself is unscathed and every single GL was fine (Except Kyle, obviously)

Anyway, this part is completely meaningless, just like your attempts at creating armour and other various shielding, the simple fact is, I attacked you in antirely non-physical way that you have no defense against, a magical mind-f**k

I've already shown Green Lantern susceptibility to telepathy.
Now I will show GL susceptibility to magic:




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Ok, here's the recap:

PG is spreading himself way too thin:

1. shields
2. armour
3. nanities
4. "power drainer" (which doesn't work on magic anyway)
5. immunity to said "power drainer"
6. energy dome
7. brain-f**king-surgery on yourself / Chemically neutering his own brain

A. He has shown absolutely no way to detect my character.
B. He can't trap me or contain me in any way as I have multiple methods of teleportation and flight.
C. There is no evidence to support that, even if he does neuter himself, it will have any affect on my magical enchantments.

His only desperate hope is that somehow his power drainer works properly, and even if it does it has avery limited range and I can port away and strike at it from a distance. All it takes is an instant to move myself to anywhere I want to go, and Amora can still perform even under... less than ideal conditions.

How fast can she teleport?

So even if it worked, he still can't find me to follow up, and idan get away and regroup extremely easily.

He has no resistance to my primary attack of mental enslavement, even machines and characters of immense will or power have fallen victim to it in the past (Vision, Thor, Red Onslaught, Heimdall, Iron Man, etc, etc...) and he hasn't countered my EMP, which can heavily affect both IM and GL.

I showed how easily I could paralyse him, I mentioned putting him to sleep but I think I forgot to post the scans, so here:


Here's a quick scene of her freezing and "handcuffing" a team of Avengers, which included the Scarlet Witch (before her uber days, natch)

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Freeze / Sleep / Slave - any one of those attacks give me the win as he is unable to continue (and I can smash his head to pieces the instant he succumbs)

I still have the strength advantage, insane durability and speed of thought mobility via teleportation.

All of my claims are heavily backed up by mulitple past feats, all of his are wishful thinking at best.

I tried to be as clear as possible in this match, hope it wasn't boring for anyone to read. I may have underused Thor in some opinions, but his role here is merely support, resistance to injury and delivering the coup de grāce at the appropriate moment.
He's the muscle, but "she's the heavy"

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"Devoid of all emotion" ~~~ and he still gets himself fitted for a gimp suit.


Good Match PG

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Macuilli

Messy post but touching on everything is what last posts are for

The surgery in full to erase doubts

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"Brain surgery" without taking your hat off.

Enchantress vs shields like zero-point energy ones that she can't break through

EMP shenanigans have easy counters especially when your mind operates faster than lightning travels, not to mention the ring doesn't have any vulnerability to EMP's.

There was talk of the antidote not working cause of what? You do realize when the power drainer was used the criminal super-villains on the same side as the person using it were unaffected cause they were immunized? Characters with very diverse genetic makeups due to their origins or heritages ALL compatible with the antidote

Since it's always being brought up the amount of things I want him to accomplish I have to continue to dispel (more on that later) this untruth.

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*Channels LordOfBoise*

DURING THE FIGHT (which he wasn't in the suit for) HE WAS PERFORMING 3 OTHER FEATS THAT REQUIRE A NORMAL PERSON'S FULL ATTENTION BUT HE"S TONY STARK

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Your character thinks and moves slower and in a contest of conjuring things that make the other not able to function anymore you lose, BADLY

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Stealth capabilities can be emulated

Teleportation can be detected

And those "lanterns have issues with magic" scans are without context and definitely don't apply to this match, even without the defenses erected against them.

Enchantress' biggest feat of her career was that Red onslaught outlier and just like how it always is, you lose the spell when knocked out (she got punched right out of the crossover, like that was the last of her. Never to be seen of)

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or shit, even distracted.

She cannot be distracted of have anything going on with her concentration or her spells fall apart.

The power drainer will be doing more than distracting her, it's going to hit her on the genetic level as an Asgardian and screw up her biological function. Even durability is taken away and on top of that his powers will be indefinitely turned off by nanites, but there is even another source within the armour known as "S.P.I.N. tech that a simple poke (even with your durability intact it's an Adamantium needle) take you out. No will power creation needed.

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The mighty Enchantress, indeed


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Match is done.

Good job guys.


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After hours of reading, although scoob could worded his better, I vote for him.


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Hmmmm. This one was tough i honestly wanted to say tie but since that would be counterproductive I'll pick..and break the match down.

Im gonna go with Scoobs....he predicted PGs tactics rather easily and used an extremely good argument to counter it. I've never been a fan of gear that depowers characters because its plotsy. I do see PGs reasoning for using it. It's extremely effective and a good way to quickly gain the upper hand. However as shown it has a glaring weakness. Magic users. I was also not truly convinced that Tony could properly wield a ring. Ive never considered him all that strong willed. Stubborn yes, but strong willed no.


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Smurph:

OK, sorry for the delay.

This match was a lot of fun - the drafts were all pretty varied and nicely displayed some of the potential of the Low Herald tier.

I think PG had a more powerful idea, but was ultimately outdone in the debate. Scoob had a key set of arguments: a) dubious that he can be detected or contained, b) little evidence that his immaterial magic can be blocked by energy shields, c) most importantly: his magic targets willpower and emotion, the engine of the GL ring. Scoob set up his attack and argument to effectively target PG's biggest weakness.

I think PG's plan to instantly create supertech oversold Stark's ability to recall the fine details of every invention. Even with the benefit of the doubt that the ring could fill in any gaps in Stark's memory, I feel that a device that can instantly depower high heralds falls beyond the Low Herald tech creation limits of this tourney. So... either it can't be done, or it can be but probably isn't legal.

Thanks for the hard work and fun everybody.

Vote: Scoobless


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Thoughts:

Science and Willpower vs Magic and Thunder. Man/Alien vs Gods.

PG's strategy:
Shields
Armor + Cloaking
Power Drainer as main offensive
Nanites

Scoobs strategy:
Super Invisibility
Magic love
Teleportation and clobbering of brains

Scoob's main thought process is that Stark/GL's are weak against magic - which is true. However, the neural net that Tony used - and failed against Strange - and the power drainer were two separate devices. Not only that, but Enchantress/Thor are much more like Ares than they are Strange - they are magical beings themselves rather than simply controlling magical forces. As cheap as the drainer is, I can't see you not being effected by it. And if you are effected by it, then I can't see you utilizing your magic to get out of it - all the characters shown not being able to access their powers, Ares among them - is what I see happening. Even if you're invisible to the point that no one can find you, the drainer doesn't need a specific location as long as you are in range erm

I do think that Tony can multi-task while being abnormally concentrated on all of the things he's doing - it's part of his "powerset" - and referenced a ton since Extremis. Tony's brain + GL's willpower (especially one specifically well versed as biological/medical specialist) means that they can quickly inoculate themselves. I'll side with Scoobs against auto-shields - they were popular back in the day, but John's changed their powerset and that particular feature was never used before or after Sora's introduction.

I also think that Magic is this particular team's weakness. Iron Man has stood up to Doom (as proven), but enough time/magic will almost always win out against both his shields and GL's shields. Unfortunately, I don't see you being able to utilize them much once the power drainer (which, unfortunately, I see Tony/GL being able to re-create and utilize) activates. If the power drainer wasn't a part of the strategy, I see Enchantress/Thor winning this match more often than not. Unfortunately, it is.

Sorry Scoobs, I'm voting PG.


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