I don't think Kaioshin are alerted every time a planet is destroyed. If that were the case, then Boo wouldn't have been able to destroy hundreds of planets in a years-long rampage before the 5 original Kaioshin intervened. Remember, they operate in a universal(and beyond) capacity. A planet getting destroyed here and there is inconsequential in the scope of things. /shrug
Tbh, I don't think the Kaioshin paid much attention to mortal affairs until the threat in question superseded the ability of their underlings(ie. the galactic Kaio and Dai Kaio) to handle. The Godly 'chain of command' is in place for a reason, after all.
Nah, it was just 39 years. That's how Beerus has interacted with Freeza and King Vegeta.
I don't know about Vegeta, but Toriyama did come up with Goku's original SSJ4 design: (please log in to view the image)
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
The main was basically recreated to be pure evil like his father. At the beginning he was that villain, he choose to change into a better person not only for himself but for Gohan.
Piccolo basically became a good person through good development.
And unlike Vegeta, he didn't whine and moan for more power because someone else was stronger than him, he just trained more. And he sure as hell didn't put the Earth and the Universe in danger just because he was jealous.
Hell, the shit Vegeta did in the Buu saga proved to me, no matter what, Vegeta is a shitty character.
Piccolo had no family on Earth, yet he still protected it, where as Vegeta had a wife and son, yet he willingly give himself to Babidi's control just for power.
He killed a bunch of innocence people just to riled up Goku into fighting him. That's not a good person.
Yeah, the uniqueness from "blonde/spiky/ki bolts" is what I like about it.
It's Vegeta's design specifically that looks a bit questionable. Purple gloves, purple uggs, brown hair highlights..
And then there's the awesome shiny, skin tight teal leather pants.
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DBM's concept for Gast Carcolh was very interesting. He is basically a fusion of every living Namekian, using Nail and Guru as a base. Initially, his power was sufficient to stomp Freeza. Over time, he became powerful enough to own the likes of Zen Buu(who was > Vegetto.)
It'd be cool to see Piccolo become the same type of Namekian 'Ubermensch'. Perhaps have some sort of plague that is killing-off the remaining Namekians, and the only way for them to be saved is by merging with Piccolo. That would at least make him relevant again. /shrug
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At this point, I'm convinced they're better off retconning/rewriting/continuing on from that point. Maybe even retcon the fact that it's a ten-year gap into something smaller (I know Saiyans don't age past their prime, but still).
Preach. Toriyama's said on and off that Piccolo's his favorite character, and I think that shows throughout all the sagas besides the Buu saga (where even then, he was still plenty relevant, if more as a mentor than a fighter). Hell, even what screen time he had in GT managed to tip the scales in the heroes' favor when needed (even though I still find the Black Star Dragon Balls to be a plot hole).
Not really, imo. The whole red-fur-black-hair-for-no-reason never struck much of a chord for me. A golden oozaru on its own made more sense as far as a "full-circle" super saiyan went.
Vegeta's always been a mixed bag for me, but what you said is why Piccolo's the better character/person. The former has always been a bit overrated.
While not my favorite thing, I did at least like how SSJ4 put the ape aspects on display again, since that aspect of the race just stopped mattering altogether prior to that point... Kinda the case again now with the less than inspiring SSJG recolors.
I wanna see ape aspects of (at least) the pure blood saiyans again over neutered monkeys with random hair recolors.
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The thing about Vegeta is...he's not a human being or a namekian. He's a saiyan and what they do for power and the thrill of a good fight makes literally no sense where the ones they care about come in. Goku is a victim to that saiyan nature time and time and time again. He endangered everyone on Earth by giving Cell a phucking sensu bean to fight gohan. He wanted to fight Vegeta again in the saiyan saga (I quote) on Earth. He let Frieza power up to his maximum before beating him. And the thing is, HE wasn't raised in saiyan culture like Vegeta. Vegeta had his whole life of thinking a certain way to change, not to mention unresolved rage from a life of being under Frieza's thumb. Old habits die hard and a lifetime of habits die harder.
That's all true in a sense, and that's one of the reason I don't consider Goku a hero in the sense of being a Hero.
He'll defend others because half the time the villains are looking for him and he loves a good fight.
The reason you mentioned aboved is the reason in my opinion makes Piccolo such a well develop character.
After he became good, he never once jeopardize the world for his selfish pride. Piccolo was always the voice of reason that went even farther than Goku in protecting the Earth.
Case in point, Goku wasn't going to tell the z Fighters about the Androids showing up if not for Piccolo super hearing.
If he had not told them, the Z fighters would have died in less than second against the Androids.
At the end of the day, Piccolo's race has there own planet, he could always say screw the Earth and go to new Namek, but he cares enough to always be the voice of reason when the main character is just a hot headed Buffon that would willing abandoned his wife and kids just for. Fight.
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