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carver9
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Gladiator alone stomps
Silver surfer alone stomps

Noone in DBZ is FTL/MFTL they speed blitz quicker than you can say "No!"

Annihilators stomp

Show me anyone on the annihlator COMBATING at light speed. Scans.

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Yeah, most comic characters are slowpokes compared to those of Dragon Ball. Anyone who watched the anime or read the manga knows that.

Gladiator's shown he can strike at light speed, but that wasn't a real combat (Glads was attacking Reed's hologram, which actually was Cap blocking every single one of Glads' punches with his shield).

DB team has deadly speed, skills, vast energy output and even their str/dur stats are nothing to laugh at. Marvel team dies.

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You really shouldn't ask me about Gladiator. I know more about him than almost anyone on the forum. If you're looking at high showings ONLY, Gladiator gives Odin a fight. On AVERAGE, any if the Z fighter mentioned here would destroy Gladiator.

How is Surfer approaching this fight and provide scans proving what you say he does in a fight. I know how Surfer fight and he would get blitzed and combo to koed until he falls to sleep. Goku is on another level.

I don't have to name any strength fts for Goku because I know he can hurt Surfer. That's like me asking you to name some strength fts for Odin proving that he can hurt Hulk with punches since Hulk strength fts are far better. Odin doesn't need strength fts for us to know he would drop Hulk in a physical confrontation. Goku has displayed he has the power to drop anyone here and given what I've seen from everyone here and how they fight in character, Super Saiyan Goku solos.

this shit.

Lol at Gladiator being Odin level...

Goku has no relevant strength or speed feats to compare so the only arguing you can do is lowball. The only FTL character in DBZ (Whis) confirmed Goku & Vegeta are still below synapse speed.

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this shit.

Lol at Gladiator being Odin level...

Goku has no relevant strength or speed feats to compare so the only arguing you can do is lowball. The only FTL character in DBZ (Whis) confirmed Goku & Vegeta are still below synapse speed.

Show me those combat fts then and show me on panel combat fts of how the Annihilators will approach this fight.

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Aug 28th, 2015 10:59 PM

Henry_Pym
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You the "forum's Gladiator expert" need me to show you Gladiator punching? Really now...

Aug 28th, 2015 11:07 PM

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You the "forum's Gladiator expert" need me to show you Gladiator punching? Really now...

I'm asking you to show me the fts you are using to suggest Gladiator beats anyone here. Scans please because on average, Gladiator gets blitzed and beat to sleep by Goku. Now again, if we are arguing primarily off of high showings, that's when things get interesting.

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Henry_Pym
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A couple of spider-man level goons can't beat Gladiator.

Aug 29th, 2015 01:17 AM

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A couple of spider-man level goons can't beat Gladiator.

Pym Particles overdose?

A generic ki blast from any Z fighters at DBS/BOG levels will hurt Glads. Renzoku Energy Dan will tear him to pieces.

Galick Gun or Kamehameha = Gladiator vaporized.

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A couple of spider-man level goons can't beat Gladiator.

Yes, the same guys who hurt each other with punches while palming or tanking planetary blasts are just Spider Man level.

And this is in defense of Gladiator who is just a cornucopia of low feats. Gambit is above Goku level.

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Pym Particles overdose?

A generic ki blast from any Z fighters at DBS/BOG levels will hurt Glads. Renzoku Energy Dan will tear him to pieces.

Galick Gun or Kamehameha = Gladiator vaporized.

nothing has happened in DBS... Beerus isn't here and he chumped the Z fighters.

So how is BoG relevant? You don't even have 5 saiyans here for god mode.

Aug 29th, 2015 04:36 AM

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nothing has happened in DBS... Beerus isn't here and he chumped the Z fighters.

So how is BoG relevant? You don't even have 5 saiyans here for god mode.

They're post Buu Saga, that's enough.

God mode did happen, Goku absorbed the godly ki and became SBG... unless the OP meant him to be specifically at pre-ritual levels.

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Gambit is above Goku level.

Corsair and Cyclops before his first upgrade ever must be, too? eek!

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Pym Particles overdose?

A generic ki blast from any Z fighters at DBS/BOG levels will hurt Glads. Renzoku Energy Dan will tear him to pieces.

Galick Gun or Kamehameha = Gladiator vaporized.

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Aug 29th, 2015 02:26 PM

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They're post Buu Saga, that's enough.

God mode did happen, Goku absorbed the godly ki and became SBG... unless the OP meant him to be specifically at pre-ritual levels.

Corsair and Cyclops before his first upgrade ever must be, too?

can you prove Goku can go SSJG without it? He didn't in RoF and SSJGSSJ was pretty much garbage.

Aug 29th, 2015 05:34 PM

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He went SSJG again in the final effort to stop Beerus from destroying the Earth, remember.

Anyway, he doesn't need to go SSJG, as most energies from that form he has in the "base" Saiyan Beyond God state now.

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Henry_Pym
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There is a ton of context to that though. He had just recently run out of god Ki, he thought the earth was doomed, everyone was praying to him & he immediate fell back out of it.

Based on? Even the Blueper Saiyan form was a massive downgrade from God form.

Aug 30th, 2015 12:19 AM

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Blueper Saiyan form.

Is it odd that I like this marginally better than the official name?

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There is a ton of context to that though. He had just recently run out of god Ki, he thought the earth was doomed, everyone was praying to him & he immediate fell back out of it.

Based on? Even the Blueper Saiyan form was a massive downgrade from God form.

Based on the fact that he still was able to fight 70% Beerus.

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Henry_Pym
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In RoF? Beerus fought nobody, both Goku & Vegeta trained vs a daydreaming Whis and got owned instantly. Infact I think both were two pieced.

If you're talking BoG Goku was thoroughly smashed and humbled.
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Another point for Anni stomp, the Z fighters can't sense their energy or even worse if they can sense something (life force) it will cause them to get very cocky.

Aug 30th, 2015 03:46 PM

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As Carver said, when discussing high-ends Spider-man beat up Firelord; so its only value is spank material for fanboys.

As far as consistent portrayals are concerned however; the Silver Surfer and arguably Gladiator are the only ones that compare to the listed Z-fighters. What I mean with compare is that there is room for debate as to whether they'd win or not.

Aug 30th, 2015 04:44 PM