Although, I can see Astner's point. The problem I see, in general, with examining comic book characters vs anime/manga (or anyone, really) is that comic characters are often handle by multiple writers, and of course, the manner in which they're handled differs, sometimes greatly, depending on the writer (Don't we all just love Frank Miller's Batman? ); hence the faulty inconsistency. Anime and manga, on the other hand, are usually handled exclusively by their respective creators, with a clearer, more pure idea of how the characters are portrayed and who/what they're intended to be.
That said, I'm not exactly sure what the remedy for this would be, but I just wanted to mention it.
I'm guessing its that Goku has what it take to handle the Annihilators since he was able to put up a fight against Beerus who ,according to Whis, destroyed two suns.
I'm not aware of Beta Ray Bill napping in the sun, but assuming it's true what does Whis inability to create stars have to do with anything?
Bill's ability to survive inside of a star—which would be high-end—is not impressive enough to warrant that he'd survive an exploding star let alone a condensed blast that would destroy a star; and Beerus destroyed two stars while half asleep from what we're told.
Bill is equal to Thor in terms of power and abilities; and while Thor is one of the most powerful Avengers, he's not endangering the planet with every fight he's in.
Its from right before Bill fought Stardust. Btw stars are always combusting, it's what makes them stars.
We are using high end as standard Goku can't sence anyone here's power level and thus would fight very sloppy. It's also been shown in the Buu arc that their "high" speed fighting ability comes from that sense.
You can tell the size by looking at the ship in the middle of the blast.
Shatter an amped Quasar shield? What in the world are you talking about? The shields were not shattered there. What I'm telling you is, they would've died from that attack 'if Quasar shields were not in place'. Do you understand now? A attack that Goku could easily replicate.
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You mean that stars undergo fusion? Yes. But the effect of a star released through fusion is significantly less than the effect of a supernova.
Well. I'm not. I'm using consistently reliable portrayals in which case Silver Surfer and Gladiator are the only ones that can be considered threats. Whether either of them would solo or lose is a topic of speculation which I'm not too interested in.
Majin Buu fought without sensing chi and he was able to keep up with the Z-fighters. So the advantage of sensing ki is marginal at best.
...care to prove Beerus made a star go supernova over just dissipating it.
Bill is roughly Surfers equal, so I'm not sure why you are excluding him. Ronan and Nova have some solid feats and quasar is like tailor made to kill Z fighters.
Ok, so one has that ability. Goku told that energy eating dragon thing. To lazy to look up his name.
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Cell
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Mecha Frieza
Majin Vegeta
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The fights he didn't screw around with:
Raditz (unconfirmed as he was curb stomped)
Nappa (*multiple deaths caveat*)
Vegeta (though he does spare the murder of his friends)
Ginyu force
Frieza (Krillian, Vegeta & all of Namek are destroyed and Goku is still dicking around but he was far too powerful)
Kid Buu
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); hence the faulty inconsistency. Anime and manga, on the other hand, are usually handled exclusively by their respective creators, with a clearer, more pure idea of how the characters are portrayed and who/what they're intended to be.
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