It addresses exactly what you just said, did you even read it?
"Reckless efforts to paint Donald Trump as a fascist “make a proper understanding of both fascism and our current crisis impossible,” says a prominent historian of actual Italian fascism.
“Calling [Trump] a ‘fascist’ distorts the history of the last century,” historian Michael Ledeen writes in Forbes.com.
He states:
If you’re looking for real fascists in the modern world, you’ll do better looking at the jihadis, who believe they have been tricked into previous defeats, unleashed slaughter on those who oppose them, seek to dominate the world, and destroy free societies. Trump is not one of those."
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You were directly trying to imply that Trump is being Fascist. People have the right to hear him speak, and the people disrupting the peaceful gatherings are Fascist.
Trump did not make anyone attend his rally. He has the right as a presidential candidate to let his message be heard, and George Soros aka BLM, Moveon.org are trying to silence him.
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I will also add, This presidential process that is part of our democratic system of government, no one made any of the protestors go to the events. What the race baiting protestors did was deny Trumps and the people who attended their freedom of speech which is against the law.
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No one forces them to rallys or makes them watch Trump speeches. Actually as an example, in chicago it was the people attempting to go to the trump ralley that were subjected to the protesters. Not the other way around.
This is not the first time this has happened in Chicago, also Trump has never said anything about blacks. All he has tried to do is show them the democrats like Obama and Clintons have let them down.
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You are mistaken. Fascism is a much more complicated ideology. Apart from nationalism, it also employs centralization of authority via communal unity, which is closely associated with the left wing. (source: Erich Fromm Escape from Freedom)
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Lol at trying to paint the left wing as fascist. Liberals aren't the ones talking about forcibly relocating/banning over 23 million people/over 1/3 of the world population based on their religion and nationality.
Also, Liberals aren't the ones sucking up to Putin, Assad, and even Kim Jong Un.
Nor are liberals the ones who have racist homophobic duck hunters promoting them at campaign events.
Nor are liberals the ones promoting familicidal war crimes (admittedly, I don't mind the idea of torturing ISIS terrorists as punishment. Phuck those pricks. But their families?).
Nor are liberals actively being referred to as Nazi-like by Holocaust survivors.
Nor are liberals the ones who promote violence at their rallies.
Nor are liberals the ones making the U.S. the laughingstock of the world, to the point that the UK, one of our closest and most important allies, are having executive cabinet meetings to discuss banning entrance
Nor are the liberals the ones who held the government and economy hostage to stop a healthcare program that, despite the fearmongering, has not destroyed the U.S.
Nor are liberals the ones coming up with Jade Helm conspiracy theories that end up being completely unfounded
Nor are liberals the ones who believe a photo of a woman giving a Nazi salute is a Sanders supporter before fact checking
Nor are liberals the ones who outright say in speeches that they love uneducated ignorance
Nor are liberals the ones who stopped a bill to provide aid to veterans purely to spite Obama
Nor are liberals the ones so reviled that people come out in the THOUSANDS to protest against them
So yeah, take a look at the right wing before you start criticizing the left. Because you say you want to make America great again, and yet Trump and the GOP has now made America the ultimate mockery in the view of both the American public and the world.
You do know that liberalism really means is that you advocate social progress for egalitarianism and human rights? The U.S. is a liberal democracy because our civil liberties are the most protected rights of the Constitution. Quite simply, liberals are humanitarians. We hate dehumanization and want to see everyone get treated equally under the golden rule rather than be socially stratified by darwinistic capitalism (and this is the liberal belief on capitalism: Just like religion, there's nothing wrong with it until it is used to exploit others and violate human rights). Liberals are not socialists. We just desire for everyone to have government-provided access to healthcare and education (which are basic human rights which everyone deserves to have regardless of economic status) and basic livable wages to afford food, clothing, shelter, utilities, transportation, and, if affordable, consumerist luxuries.As far as welfare is concerned, nobody on the left or right likes welfare moochers and their should be restrictions on them, but to eliminate such programs entirely and things like Social Security (which would be the ULTIMATE PHUCK YOU to the labor workforce of the past half century) would be disastrous to the public.
As far as guns, we don't want a complete disarmament gun ban like the right suggests, just military grade weapons, which neither civilians nor police should be wielding. Unless you are in an action movie running from a mercenary team, there's no reason you need an assault rifle for self defense.
So this is what it means to be liberal
You do know that all conservatism really means is that you are afraid of social change aka social progress and want to keep the status quo? Yeah, that's not going to happen. The world is changing and becoming more diverse, tolerant, and egalitarian. It's the 21st century and you still want the idyllic WASP paradise of the 50's. I'm sorry but that era is GONE. You can't fight change, because change is a juggernaut, and any attempt will just lead to self destruction, as shown with the chaotic FUBAR cluster**** that is the GOP party right now.
Interestingly, Trump has left wing views on healthcare and social security. He doesn't identify himself as left or right wing. He's pretty much a political party unto himself that just happens to have the GOP logo. So if he has admittedly liberal views, are you willing to admit that by proxy you also have left wing views?
Anyways, who's ready to watch the downfall of Rubio?
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