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I dont even know why we would be talking about Trump running third party.


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Liberal media. It goes against the natural order of things.

They are so rebellious they let most of the tv stations define their opinion and say drumpf is running third party after securing the ****ing nom.


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I dont even know why we would be talking about Trump running third party.


How about because the Republican party needs him, more than Trump needs the party? That's reason enough.

They didn't back him, and he'd pull in the third party vote while keeping his current crop of voters, who are NOT voting for him because he's conservative or republican. They're voting him because he's Trump.

And he's one of the few, if not only people,.who could make this work. He WON rhe nomination. Leaving the party on a win, sends the message "screw you guys", since nobody could say otherwise as he WON. It's not sour grapes or anything else.


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But he's never going to run third party, he just clenched the nomination out right, and he needs the GOP infrastructure as much as they need him. He could not even get on the ballot in key states as its to late for an independent to do so, so literally him running as an independent would give certain victory to Hilary. We are entertaining lunacy right now. There isn't even a .0000000000001% chance he would run as an independent.


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He won the nomination and the party would value him as their best option. Even little marco gave his delegates to trump. He ain't going anywhere..


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Right wing doesn't mean republican and left wing doesn't mean democrat. I think it's clear who I meant when I said "the usual suspects". They are trolls. They make out that making fun of people until they're banned is their mission. It's funny that you can only refer to people who are banned or people with warnings.

Also, my opinion on Jews are not abhorrent, ask PVS. He'll laugh at you and make race jokes.


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i'm not your patron saint of self validation, so stop referencing me to try to justify your dimwittery.


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People love the Clintons. Hilary could shoot someone in the back of the head and people would say that person deserves it.

It's an utter disgrace that people want the Clintons back. Trump might not be perfect, but he represents a change this country desperately needs. We cannot be run by the same family's for generations at a time.

The Bushes and Clintons had their time. It's time for something new.


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I agree, I also remember people believing the two family's were somehow tied in business and relations etc. in a way that the Bush's and Bin Laden are tied.

It's kinda eery to me, and I simply don't know much about Hilary or Bill to rile at the teeth, other than the obvious ones and just the simple fact that out of the last presidents since Reagan, Bill was undoubtedly the best one. That's about it. That seems to be her entire campaign, if I'm honest.


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Possibly the best Trump speech of all time.

June 2, 2016


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That speech is pretty rambling and incoherent in most places. It's all about riling up the crowd really.

Policy wise he said a couple things like "we are going to bring so many jobs", "we'll solve New Hampshire drug problem" "we'll build the wall".

But he doesn't actually say how he will do any of these things.

The only concrete thing he said was that he'd out a 35% tax on items sold by American companies who have brought jobs overseas. That's of course still incredibly vague. But at least it comes close to some actual policy.

I was hoping that there would be some substance in a full speech, but there really wasn't anything that hints at what his policies would be, what he'd actually do as president. It's all about what he promises to achieve, but he doesn't give any steps in how he will manage to do these things he promises.


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You could make the same exact argument for Hilary who keeps touting "love and kindness" instead of an actual plan.

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Maybe, I haven't seen a full speech of hers in a while. Though the last one I read a transcript of a couple months ago had more substance. At any rate, this one definitely had none. I am still rather confused how there's been basically no discussion of any actual policies, or plans, or understanding of foreign policy, perhaps this will have to wait for the general election. But I suspect that Trump will struggle significantly when it comes to actual ideas and implementations....whether that will hurt him with the electorate is another question, of course.


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Maybe, I haven't seen a full speech of hers in a while. Though the last one I read a transcript of a couple months ago had more substance. At any rate, this one definitely had none. I am still rather confused how there's been basically no discussion of any actual policies, or plans, or understanding of foreign policy, perhaps this will have to wait for the general election. But I suspect that Trump will struggle significantly when it comes to actual ideas and implementations....whether that will hurt him with the electorate is another question, of course.


I honestly haven't seen any concrete plans from Sanders, Clinton or Trump.

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People love the Clintons. Hilary could shoot someone in the back of the head and people would say that person deserves it.

It's an utter disgrace that people want the Clintons back. Trump might not be perfect, but he represents a change this country desperately needs. We cannot be run by the same family's for generations at a time.

The Bushes and Clintons had their time. It's time for something new.


She could shoot someone in the head and when arrested people would just say it's a conspiracy to ruin Hilary's career. Then she'd walk out of prison and go do a speech, get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for it, and then go on her merry way.


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That speech is pretty rambling and incoherent in most places. It's all about riling up the crowd really.

Policy wise he said a couple things like "we are going to bring so many jobs", "we'll solve New Hampshire drug problem" "we'll build the wall".

But he doesn't actually say how he will do any of these things.

The only concrete thing he said was that he'd out a 35% tax on items sold by American companies who have brought jobs overseas. That's of course still incredibly vague. But at least it comes close to some actual policy.

I was hoping that there would be some substance in a full speech, but there really wasn't anything that hints at what his policies would be, what he'd actually do as president. It's all about what he promises to achieve, but he doesn't give any steps in how he will manage to do these things he promises.


And what promises has Hilary specifically defined in any speech on her promises giving steps in how she will manage to do what she promises. More over, What has Bernie said on how he will pay for all his social programs.

Trump has given more specifics then Hilary and Bernie combined. Hilary has not done a press conference in over 100 days, Trump does them every day.


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At this point anything Hilary would even try to promise would be taken with a grain of salt since more and more people just don't trust this woman. It's kind of funny.


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She won't do press conferences and take questions from the media. She said there isn't enough media following her around when there are 30-40 reporters following her at all times.


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I heard some of her talking points about Donald Trump and she called him an "outright liar" and that was just a priceless moment. It is like Bill Clinton calling someone else an adulterer.


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