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Right.

What does that has to do with Gladiator knocking him out with two punches?

Both were due to magical weakness of Superman. And Anointed One didn't kill him. It was Gemnanae.

Not that any of that is relevant here.



Buuuuuttttt, you've argued in the past that he overcomes his so called magical weakness.


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Really? I guess that answers any linger questions about you.


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Buuuuuttttt, you've argued in the past that he overcomes his so called magical weakness.

Yes, he does. It's still a weakness for him.


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Here's a gif of their role play. Fair warning to everyone, it's brutal.


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Yes, he does. It's still a weakness for him.


So what's the point? If he overcomes it, then how can you use it as an excuse? Just say Atlas beat his ass.


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So what's the point? If he overcomes it, then how can you use it as an excuse? Just say Atlas beat his ass.


Unless you can prove that Thor emits a similar thing as was going on in that comic, this doesn't help your case. If you cannot prove that, it actually hurts your case as Atlas could not easily KO Superman despite that.


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So what's the point? If he overcomes it, then how can you use it as an excuse? Just say Atlas beat his ass.

laughing out loud

Like Taurus oneshotting Thor, I presume?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11533051/09.jpg.html

No weakness exploited, just oneshotted.


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Really? I guess that answers any linger questions about you.


Come on! It was good, don't enter into meltdown mode ove this silly thing dude.

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Like Taurus oneshotting Thor, I presume?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11533051/09.jpg.html

No weakness exploited, just oneshotted.


That scan of Thor has nothing to do WHATSOEVER with the topic. The topic was Superman's supposed magical weakness and you vasillating back and forth on the merits of how magic affects superman. When Superman is significantly hurt by or loses to a magical being (or some cases, beings who aren't magical who you claim are like Triumph), you point to magic as the reason Superman lost. At the same time, you often claim that Superman can beat magical character A because he has been shown to overcome magical weakness. It's completely contradictory. Who are you to say which fights he wins and loses with magical characters? You aren't the writer.


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Come on! It was good, don't enter into meltdown mode ove this silly thing dude.

Please.


Get out of the cheerleader zone and back to the friend zone.


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That scan of Thor has nothing to do WHATSOEVER with the topic. The topic was Superman's supposed magical weakness and you vasillating back and forth on the merits of how magic affects superman. When Superman is significantly hurt by or loses to a magical being (or some cases, beings who aren't magical who you claim are like Triumph), you point to magic as the reason Superman lost. At the same time, you often claim that Superman can beat magical character A because he has been shown to overcome magical weakness. It's completely contradictory. Who are you to say which fights he wins and loses with magical characters? You aren't the writer.

Did I? Where did I say that Superman overcomes magic everytime?

Post that and then talk. It's a weakness for a reason.


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Get out of the cheerleader zone and back to the friend zone.


That's how meltdowns start laughing out loud


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Unless someone arguing for Thor can prove that just being around Thor will have the effect people are trying to argue, this is getting off-topic. The fight with Atlas had Superman straight-up saying there was something wrong, and it wasn't Atlas himself. There's several more examples of Superman not being effected in that way against Wonder Woman, Etrigan, Captain Marvel, Black Adam(minimum two fights for each character mentioned) and other, less known examples. He doesn't get effected like that JUST because an opponent is mystical in nature.


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Did I? Where did I say that Superman overcomes magic everytime?

Post that and then talk. It's a weakness for a reason.


You say it every time someone pits a character with magic based power against Superman. Don't play games.


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Unless someone arguing for Thor can prove that just being around Thor will have the effect people are trying to argue, this is getting off-topic. The fight with Atlas had Superman straight-up saying there was something wrong, and it wasn't Atlas himself. There's several more examples of Superman not being effected in that way against Wonder Woman, Etrigan, Captain Marvel, Black Adam(minimum two fights for each character mentioned) and other, less known examples. He doesn't get effected like that JUST because an opponent is mystical in nature.


No one is arguing that Superman gets weakened by simply being around a magic based character (that is, beside Abby referencing Triumph), it's the attacks that matter. Nice straw man argument. And who gives a damn about some dubious comment made by Superman that wasn't born out in the showing? "Something was wrong?" Yeah, until further notice, he got his ass handed to him, plain and simple.


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No one is arguing that Superman gets weakened by simply being around a magic based character, it's the attacks that matter. Nice straw man argument. And who gives a damn about some dubious comment made by Superman that wasn't born out in the showing? "Something was wrong?" Yeah, until further notice, he got his ass handed to him, plain and simple.


Except, people are indeed arguing Atlas fighting Superman, and they don't know the context. I actually read everything there, unlike you. That was one of multiple reasons. It's not a strawman. You're simply ignorant, and trying to defend your ignorance.

So, unless anybody can prove that Thor would have a similar effect, it's worthless for the Thor side. Are you going to actually argue feats/showings for Thor, or resort to arguing examples you know nothing about?


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I always looked at it like this, Superman tends to have an easier time overcoming damaging magic. By this I mean, like a fireball or a lightning bolt or anything, a magic missile. I think his resistance to these things is actually above a normal persons, he just isn't outright invulnerable to them. Case in point: he's taken repeated bolts of magical lightning in the past and not died. A normal human isn't going to really do the same. He's been hit by magical fire and commented about how he could feel the heat, but wasn't burned by it. He's also inhaled magical poison without dying. This is all pre Nu DC obviously, it could be different now.

More esoteric stuff, soul rips, transmutation, that is the type of magic he's going to have no real defense against at all.


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Surtur, the topic is for Pre-FLASHPOINT Superman.


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