Okay so that is good, those feats should apply then. But yeah.. Etrigan created magical poison and Supes just slurped that shit up more or less.
EDIT: I will also point out he was able to resist mental abilities of a magical origin via his training from J'onn.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
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Okay so since this is essentially coming down to strength, durability, and fighting skill..I have to go with Thor here. I think they are close enough in strength and durability that skill the key, and that should go to Thor.
Superman is not some unskilled fighter or anything like that, but I don't quite think he is as good as Thor though.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
You read the issue and you still can't define what "Something is wrong means", correct? Thanks.
I am attacking his inconsistency in debating, you are just around to bear witness. When debating, you can't hope to establish a point when you contradict the point you are trying to make. That's exactly what he's doing. He says Superman is weak to magic during loses, just like he did with Triumph. The fact that he wasn't even magic based is secondary in this case. Yet he claims Superman won't be beaten because of his magical weakness because he will overcome it. Even a drooling idiot understands that something does not compute with those two diametrically opposed notions.
I read the entire STORYLINE, not just the issue. Reading comprehension fail.
And I read what Abhi said. This is another reading comprehension fail for you, too. Or did you understand when he said to post when he said Superman always overcomes it, because your argument falls apart without it?
__________________ Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
I get what you're saying, but when I say he's gimped it's because the stips for this fight take away from Thor vastly more than Superman. It's why i he's gimped, because he's fighting under conditions that are his to lose. /shrug.
How? There's no advantages to either of them. It's fist vs fist...no speed advantage. Just two guys going at it. What should I have given Thor to make this fair?
I bash superman constantly but I am still objective
Superman will beat thor down in a straight up fight
__________________ QUANCHI112:In between the passes Khan will tear out the orca teeth and use them as an offensive weapon. Khan has crushed a skull before so tearing a tooth off a whale should be no issue.
You can say it another 50 times if you wish, if you don't know what was wrong as Superman alluded to, it's not the least bit relevant to the discussion. What's comical is that are the one that's lagging behind intellectually. I understood his point well when I made my counter point, it's you that doesn't understand the counterpoint. As matter of fact, skip all this and go about your business since you weren't part of the discussion.
Who said anything about fair? What I'm saying is, because of these stips, Thor loses a lot more than Superman does. The purpose of the thread, the results, they're not relevant. I'm saying that under these stips it's very hard for Thor to win, even 2/10. It's not a critique or a complaint, but an observation.
Missed this. This is yet another example of your utter ignorance of Superman, and I predict that if you don't go into meltdown mode, you'll try to justify it with mental gymnastics.
The training I was referring to, while did include some hand-to-hand combat, wasn't strictly that. Superman's mind was actually reducing his powers, and Mongul was training him to overcome them. But, you, being a Superman hater who bandwagon rides and leeches off others, cheerleading their arguments and scans, wouldn't know bubkiss about this.
Actually, I already covered it. My point about what Superman said was in reference to even from his words it showed there was something else in there. If you actually read the comic, you'd have known about what happened, and if you read the storyline you'd know the details. But again, a Superman hating bandwagon rider who, being a parasite, has to feed off what everybody else says instead of make his own arguments.
I already covered it in prior posts, and you missing it just proves me right about your reading incomprehension. Carry on, you debate stud you. Carry on.
__________________ Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
If you mistake being wordy for being intelligent, well.....you probably don't understand the argument either. I love how each of you feel obligated to speak for Abby.
I don't give a damn about you, deltawing or the very fictional. Superman. No, I don't actually read his comics nor will I, nor am I obligated to, nor will I consider your opinion on the matter. Is not reading Superman looked down upon in Smalldickville? Well it's not in the real world. You and your partner can choose how to waste your own time, but unless the two of you can smash you worthless brains together and squeeze out an actual defense to my criticism of the techniques Abby employs, you won't be wasting any more of my time.
It never cease to amaze me on how people constantly underestimate SM. SM has had yrs of training under Batman & WW at HTH, plus training under KK, plus what he learned on his own. So before we go here's another SM fanboy jocking SM, lets look at some facts SM has defeated Kobra a A list MA who once beat Batman at HTH, Another great example is during the New Krypton story-line when the bottle city of Kandor created a new Krypton SM fought another Kryptonian at HTH in which SM beat him by using a mixture of MA styles. So this idea tat SM hass never demonstrated skill at HTH is a falacy.
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Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
