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What does God get out of being worshipped?
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Shakyamunison
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No, that's being both arrogant and ignorant. You either subscribe to a God or you don't. If you don't, you don't get to sit there and dissect his motives if he theoretically existed. I've had this discussion ad nauseam. The fallible don't get to pretend they understand the infallible.


I don't see why they have a say. Atheists have as much of a say as anyone else.


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I don't see why they have a say. Atheists have as much of a say as anyone else.


Sure but atheists like surfur are as ignorant as theists like star.


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Sure but atheists like surfur are as ignorant as theists like star.


If the universe is infinite, then there is an infinite number of possibilities, and God must be one of them. However, there should also be a Superman and the flash. Perhaps the universe isn't infinite.


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If the universe is infinite, then there is an infinite number of possibilities, and God must be one of them. However, there should also be a Superman and the flash. Perhaps the universe isn't infinite.


Uh...Pass what you're smoking?


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Uh...Pass what you're smoking?


I didn't smoke anything.

Your point: No one should talk about something they cannot understand. Is that right? How could I talk about infinity when there is no way I could ever truly understand it? The fact is, I can. So, you are wrong. We can talk about things we can't understand.

Note: Perhaps if I did smoke something I would have an easier time expressing my self.


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You're misunderstanding what God is looking for. He isn't seeking robotic devotion to feed His ego. He's looking for communication. He wants us to communicate with Him through prayer and devotion. He wants us to recognize that we have been separated from Him due to sin and the only way to reestablish the lost connection to Him is through faith in Christ Jesus. With the connection restored, we can communicate with him as a child would his/her parent. He is our Father. He wants us to communicate our problems to Him, express our fears to Him, etc. That is what God wants from us. He wants to be our Father. We need to be as loving and devoted to Him as we would our own parents.


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I didn't smoke anything.

Your point: No one should talk about something they cannot understand. Is that right? How could I talk about infinity when there is no way I could ever truly understand it? The fact is, I can. So, you are wrong. We can talk about things we can't understand.

Note: Perhaps if I did smoke something I would have an easier time expressing my self.


No, my point is don't talk about something as if you understand it when you really don't. IE (god is a mass murderer!!!)


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psmith is upset because his god is a tyrant.


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So much for him staying out of the thread. laughing out loud


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No, my point is don't talk about something as if you understand it when you really don't. IE (god is a mass murderer!!!)


Why? If you take the bible literally, then you can draw that conclusion.


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Why? If you take the bible literally, then you can draw that conclusion.


And those that want to justify that God doesn't exist because A, B, or C or "I don't believe in God because he's a mass murderer", use the literal meanings of the bible to justify their rationale.


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And those that want to justify that God doesn't exist because A, B, or C or "I don't believe in God because he's a mass murderer", use the literal meanings of the bible to justify their rationale.

And some Christians use the literal interpretation of the bible to condemn innocent people to a make-believe hell.


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And some Christians use the literal interpretation of the bible to condemn innocent people to a make-believe hell.


You've been there? You can verify hell is all make believe?


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You've been there? You can verify hell is all make believe?


You have never seen a unicorn, so you can't say they don't exist.


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You have never seen a unicorn, so you can't say they don't exist.


You just restated my point with a different example.


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You just restated my point with a different example.


I was hopping you would see how silly the argument is. Oh well...


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If the universe is infinite, then there is an infinite number of possibilities, and God must be one of them. However, there should also be a Superman and the flash. Perhaps the universe isn't infinite.


We've discussed before that while your reasoning is right, the last word in your statement shouldn't be infinite but something more like "exhaustive". Infinite possibilities does not mean every possibility.


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maybe god wins our souls from the devil. lets say that god and the devil made a wager, a kind of standing bet for all the souls of human kind. no direct action just influence


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And some Christians use the literal interpretation of the bible to condemn innocent people to a make-believe hell.


And atheists/secularists use political ideology to condemn innocent people or justify mass murder. Point?


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i don't

just saying


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