I don't think Kenobi could beat luminaries such as Sirak and Kas'im in sabers. Bane is just too good
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I'd be surprised, considering how he literally manhandled him on bug world, as well as how easily he fights him in the movie. Obi-Wan looks like he's shitting himself in that saberlock. You notice how Dooku drags his blade up to block Anakin like it's not even there? Classic.
The novel makes many things obvious that are equally obvious to actually be the opposite in the movie.
Yes but why didn't Kenobi even attempt to block the first Force Push Dooku gave him? When Anakin/Kenobi did intercept each other Force pushes, as did Ventress and Luminara.
My point being you could equalize Kenobi and Dooku's TK Ability, and Dooku would still be landing Force attacks on Kenobi. So Dooku was simply outfighting Kenobi (while simultaneously fighting off Skywalker mind you) regardless of who has greater TK.
Nah there's a lot who don't.
Most see Kenobi and Maul as near equals in swordmanship though.
As I've noted above, I just think Dooku is a superior combatant to Kenobi as of TCW and ROTS (Will wait and see what the new canon says about ANH Kenobi).
Last edited by Darth Thor on Sep 3rd, 2015 at 04:28 PM
Largely because he's willing to abuse it, and has knowledge of more destructive powers that have more various combat uses. Kenobi's a much more passive force user, though he too is really powerful in his own way; Luke compares his force strength to Durron and Yoda more than once. Then again, that's OT Ben.
Bane wins thanks to his power edge. The skill edge is pretty minimal and not going to be all the important considering Kenobi's naturally defensive stance and Bane's own prowess in defensive combat. Physicals has no gaping disparity either.
Bane doesn't have a telekinetic edge, and Bane's offensive force powers like drain aren't usable without a nexus. Kenobi can dodge Bane's lightning or catch it on his saber.
Da fuq? Kenobi has beaten Grievous, fought evenly with Ventress, held his own against Anakin, and Savage/Maul, and beaten more skilled duelists. He's the peer of duelists that would kill Bane on their own. Bane isn't even more skilled than Kas'im, and considering Kenobi's durability, speed advantage, and superior skill he could shrug off any of Bane's offense easier than Zannah. I'd also love to know what power edge he has, because Kenobi has greater telekinetic showings than Bane as well
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He probably does, though that's not what I'm talking about; the point is that he'll abuse his powers and Kenobi won't, and that's frankly an advantage.
He needed a nexus to sustain a spherical death field. Drain Life is a much more conservative spell; not that it's likely to make an appearance.
Bane can dodge Kenobi's saber or block it with his own, so what? It can still hit him and it can still kill him.
I thought Kas'im could only handle trainee Bane? Stay consistent pls.
Which he didn't do against Zannah, as his MO at least of Dynasty of evil was to opt for a lightsaber duel.
Which he has to pause and use, and unlikely as **** given Kenobi will be pounding him in sabers
And then Kenobi can blast him back, or outmaneuver him and counterattack, and no Bane isn't breaking Kenobi's defense. Again what are you talking about, he's never overly abused his powers in a lightsaber duel without orbalisks.
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__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
I agree with cart that Kenobi has been underrated pretty badly when it comes to Force power. He is a very capable force user.
If anything, the skill/dueling edge Kenobi has over this incarnation of Bane is much greater than any difference between the two in the Force department.
Sep 2nd, 2015 10:40 PM
