Another Liberal trick, "The article does not say what you think it says."
"The largest influx of refugees seen in decades in Germany has run smack into what Munich calls the world's biggest popular festival, starting Saturday, creating a massive headache for security forces and leaving some locals nervous about an awkward culture clash."
Sorry Floridian.
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I read that. Unlike you I actually have reading comprehension skills and I understand that a "massive headache" and "nervous about an awkward culture clash" doesn't nearly mean the same as "ruined"
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Appears Germany thinks these people cannot be integrated with their society.
Christians, Kurds and Yazidis in the shelters are being attacked by Muslims with increasing frequency and ferocity.
"I fled from the Iranian secret service because I thought that in Germany I could finally live my faith without persecution. But in the refugee shelter, I cannot admit that I am a Christian, or I would face threats... They treat me like an animal. They threaten to kill me." — An Iranian Christian in a German refugee shelter.
"We have to dispense with the illusion that all of those who are coming here are human rights activists. ... We are getting reports of threats of aggression, including threats of beheading, by Sunnis against Shiites, but Yazidis and Christians are the most impacted. Those Christian converts who do not hide their faith stand a 100% probability of being attacked and mobbed." — Max Klingberg, director of the Frankfurt-based International Society for Human Rights.
"We are observing that Salafists are appearing at the shelters disguised as volunteers and helpers, deliberately seeking contact with refugees to invite them to their mosques to recruit them to their cause." — Hans-Georg Maaßen, head of German intelligence.
Police are urgently calling for migrants of different faiths to be housed in separate facilities. Some politicians counter that such segregation would go against Germany's multicultural values.
"The bulk of the migrants who are arriving here cannot be integrated." — Heinz Buschkowsky, former mayor of Berlin's Neukölln district.
Muslim asylum seekers are enforcing Islamic Sharia law in German refugee shelters, according to police, who warn that Christians, Kurds and Yazidis in the shelters are being attacked by Muslims with increasing frequency and ferocity.
Muslim migrants from different sects, clans, ethnicities and nationalities are also attacking each other. Violent brawls — sometimes involving hundreds of migrants — are now a daily occurrence.
Police say the shelters, where thousands of migrants are housed together in cramped spaces for months at a time, are seething cauldrons ready to explode. The police are urgently calling for migrants of different faiths to be housed in separate facilities.
Some politicians counter that such segregation would go against Germany's multicultural values, while others say that separating hundreds of thousands of migrants by religion and nationality would be a logistical impossibility.
As the consequences of unrestrained migration become apparent, the tide of public opinion is turning against the government's open-door policy. Observers say that German Chancellor Angela Merkel, the so-called most powerful woman in the world, may have met her Waterloo.
A report published by the newspaper Die Welt on September 27 sheds light on the targeting of Christians by Muslims in German refugee shelters. The paper interviewed an Iranian convert to Christianity who said:
"In Iran, the Revolutionary Guards arrested my brother in a house church. I fled from the Iranian secret service because I thought that in Germany I could finally live my faith without persecution. But in the refugee shelter, I cannot admit that I am a Christian, or I would face threats.
"Muslims wake me before the crack of dawn during Ramadan and say that I should eat before sunrise. When I decline, they call me a kuffar, an unbeliever. They spit at me. They treat me like an animal. They threaten to kill me."
At a refugee shelter in Hemer, a town in North Rhine-Westphalia, 10 Algerian asylum seekers attacked a Christian couple from Eritrea with glass bottles. The Muslims said they were angry that the man was wearing a cross. They ripped the cross from his neck and stole his money and cellphone.
Die Welt also interviewed an Iraqi Christian family from Mosul who were living at a refugee shelter in the Bavarian town of Freising. The father said that threats by Islamists were a daily fact of life. "They shouted at my wife and hit my child," he said. "They say: 'We will kill you and drink your blood.'" Life in the shelter, he said, was as if in a prison.
According to the director of the Munich-based Central Committee for Oriental Christians, Simon Jacob, these incidents are only "the tip of the iceberg." "The actual number of attacks is very high," he said. "We have to expect further conflict, which the migrants bring to Germany from their homelands. Between Christians and Muslims. Between Shiites and Sunnis. Between Kurds and extremists. Between Yazidis and extremists."
Max Klingberg, the director of the Frankfurt-based International Society for Human Rights (Internationale Gesellschaft für Menschenrechte, IGFM), says that much of the aggression is being perpetrated by Afghans and Pakistanis, who are "even more Islamic than some Syrians and Iraqis." He warns that conflict in the refugee shelters will only become worse:
"We have to dispense with the illusion that all of those who are coming here are human rights activists. Among those who are arriving here now, a substantial number are at least as religiously intense as the Muslim Brotherhood.
"We are getting reports of threats of aggression, including threats of beheading, by Sunnis against Shiites, but Yazidis and Christians are the most impacted. Those Christian converts who do not hide their faith stand a 100% probability of being attacked and mobbed."
In a September 29 interview with the newspaper Passauer Neue Presse, the head of the German police union (Deutschen Polizeigewerkschaft, DPolG), Rainer Wendt, warned that "brutal criminal structures" have taken over the refugee shelters and that police are overwhelmed and unable to guarantee safety and security. He called for Christians and Muslims to be separated before someone gets killed:
"We have been witnessing this violence for weeks and months. Groups based on ethnicity, religion or clan structures go after each other with knives and homemade weapons. When these groups fight each other at night, all those German citizens who welcomed the migrants with open arms at the Munich train station are fast asleep, but the police remain awake and are left standing in the middle...
"We can only estimate the true extent of violence because women and children are often afraid to file a complaint. Since it is also about sexual abuse and rape...
"Sunnis are fighting Shiites, there are Salafists from competing groups. They are trying to impose their rules in the shelters. Christians are being massively oppressed and the Sharia is being enforced. Women are forced to cover up. Men are forced to pray. Islamists want to introduce their values and order at the shelters.
Wendt gave the interview days after 300 Albanian migrants clashed with 70 Pakistani migrants at a refugee shelter in Calden, a town in the state of Hesse, on September 27. More than a dozen people, including three police officers, were injured in the melee, which erupted after two migrants got into a fight while waiting in line at the canteen. It took 50 police officers several hours to restore order at the shelter, which is home to 1,500 migrants from 20 different countries.
More than 60 migrants, including ten children, were injured after Pakistanis and Syrians clashed at the same shelter on September 13. The fight broke out just after midnight, when someone sprayed mace into a tent filled with sleeping migrants. Police did not inform the public about the fight for more than a week, apparently to prevent fueling anti-immigrant sentiments.
Violent brawls are becoming commonplace at German refugee shelters across the country.
One refugee murders cop in street in Aussie. And in Denmark, another refugee scum attacks...get this...a cop!
Not to mention the rampant rape and molestation of women, boys and girls that are being reported in the camps by these Muslim dogs. But thankfully, they've yet to rape or molest a westerner, so it doesn't matter. But they will.
*I'm not talking about other refugees, because paki refugees have raped thousands of kids in the UK. I'm only referring to the Syrian refugee pigs and the eventual, inevitable decline into their natural savagery..
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Wait so Christianity is frowned upon in Germany or did he mean he faces threats from other refugee's?
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Wow, you are such a liar. Pretending that the Australian shooter is a refugee that has anything to do with the European migration. Rather than an immigrant from Iran.
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At least so far that has not happened. However you are correct that some local governments are considering to seize empty corporate and investment buildings to house migrants. The owners would, I believe, be reimbursed.
It's a tough question, Germany does have cold winters, and if the only possibility to prevent a lot of people freezing to death is to temporarily take empty spaces I suppose I'd choose that as well.
That and 1 reason Germany is so accepting of all the refugees is that they have practically a zero % growth rate and they need the fresh meat so to speak.
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I think confiscating private property to house refugee's goes a bit too far. If the winters are so tough then perhaps they shouldn't of come there without a place to stay. When you talk about reimbursing people for their confiscated property I can't help but wonder if said "reimbursements" would reflect what they'd actually get by selling those places or if the government will give them the utter bare minimum.
I'd also wonder if said reimbursements come from tax payer dollaz, but meh I don't live in Germany.
In this PC era we call them camps with large amounts of people focused into small areas. "Concentration" camp just sounds so..Nazi-ish. Focused people camps sounds a lot better.
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They are refugees, they didn't think, oh, Germany is awful nice, I guess I just leave my safe country, my family and my high paying job and go there for the lulz.
Of course reimbursements would come from tax payer money.
Something tells me there wasn't a lot of thinking going on period.
But yeah so people have a shitty country, decide "hey lets go elsewhere" and then it is up to the legal citizens of that country to foot the bill. Not only to foot to bill, but to actually be forced into giving up their property just to house these people.
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Last edited by Surtur on Oct 5th, 2015 at 03:00 PM
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No, they aren't. You keep saying this like its true. They were refugees when they left Syria, they became economic migrants when they decided to leave the peaceful country they entered after leaving Syria and headed for Germany. They are worthless criminals.