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Grand Finale - abhilegend vs Scoobless
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One_Angry_Scot
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So here is all the planning that went into this verdict I have done.

Planning

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Opening Posts + Judgement
Abhilegend Ė Opening
http://www.docdroid.net/jPQZ9EV/abh...-post.docx.html
Scoobless Ė Opening
http://www.docdroid.net/xYKhLWf/sco...-post.docx.html
Verdict Based on Opening Posts
http://www.docdroid.net/mQDTdWw/ver...posts.docx.html
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First Posts+ Judgement
Abhilegend Ė First Posts
http://www.docdroid.net/HIKG9n8/abh...-post.docx.html
Scoobless Ė First Posts
http://www.docdroid.net/wsAW0b1/sco...-post.docx.html
Verdict Based on First Posts
http://www.docdroid.net/JKI4efv/ver...posts.docx.html
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Second Posts+ Judgement
Abhilegend Ė Second Post
http://www.docdroid.net/8CTAmcv/abh...-post.docx.html
Scoobless Ė Second Post
http://www.docdroid.net/rZ6HabU/sco...-post.docx.html
Verdict Based on Second Posts
http://www.docdroid.net/LyZQBe2/ver...posts.docx.html
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Third Posts+ Judgement
Abhilegend Ė Third Post
http://www.docdroid.net/HdSQ19c/abh...-post.docx.html
Scoobless Ė Third Post
http://www.docdroid.net/XqG1rPb/sco...-post.docx.html
Verdict Based on Third Posts
http://www.docdroid.net/yPzRjfn/ver...posts.docx.html
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Fourth Posts+ Judgement
Abhilegend Ė Fourth Post
http://www.docdroid.net/vp0WtJ1/abh...-post.docx.html
Scoobless Ė Fourth Post
http://www.docdroid.net/DbAsTeu/sco...-post.docx.html
Verdict Based on Fourth Posts
http://www.docdroid.net/uTEte8U/ver...posts.docx.html
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Final Posts
Abhilegend Ė Final Post
http://www.docdroid.net/EIDRcJ3/abh...-post.docx.html
Scoobless Ė Final Post
http://www.docdroid.net/2JvumO6/sco...-post.docx.html
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Final Verdict

So onto my final verdict. It has been quite difficult to discern certain parts and make my final decision but I have come to a conclusion that is me giving a win to Scoobless.

I think that in this Battlezone Abhi has for the most part been relying on a couple of things to keep him afloat for the most part of his Battlezone. One thing was the shields that Jade supposedly had. A shield that she could apparently manipulate that nobody could break. But as we can see it wasnít a purely her power that was capable of withstanding all of that force. So we already now have a let down version of the shield that Abhi was proposing. We now donít have as much of a leg to stand on. Iíve also seen throughout the Battlezone that speed was one of the biggest problems. Abhi was making the argument that he was faster in a straight direction and I agree. Itís been proven conclusively that Abhiís amalgam will be faster in a straight line but in this Battlezone it isnít going to matter that you can shoot forwards at FTL speeds if you can be outreacted by someone who is a bit slower in a drag race style speed. But who is 10x your superior in reactions speeds.

And in my opinion Scoobless has quite simply got the edge when it comes to (reaction) speed by a huge margin. Heís also merged with a being who has a godly endurance in Amora so when he speaks of himself not being able to reach lightspeed or being careful because of his heartbeat he isnít going to have that same problem. SO heĎs going to be whizzing a long at really high speed but he also has reactions that are just that bit better than what Abhi possesses. And that is what I think is critical in this match. Because three is simply nothing Abhi really has to combat that. Abhi attempted to combat the speed by using so called Absolute Zero cold to freeze Jay Garrick in his tracks but he also hasnít proposed a single being on his team who can do this. I personally know who it is who can probably do this on Abhiís team but I canít use that because I enter this battle knowing absolutely nothing about either combatant in this BZ. And form what I can see the only argument Abhi presents for Absolute Zero are some scans from Captain Cold. Which Abhi hasnít himself drafted.

One of the things that Abhi was going to use to combat this mainly was the ability Starhawk had and his so called ability to recall events of his past selves to aid him in this battle. My main problem with this was that in this battle which is presumably a neutral arena with no outside interference there will be no other Starhawk to give him outside help in any way for this battle. As presumably if you want to extend to an outside Battlezone topic this battle has never taken place in any of a previous or future Starhawks realities. SO even if he was allowed to garner knowledge from a future or past Starhawk it wouldnít make any difference because they wouldnít be able to tell him anything either. Abhi frequently made the point in his words that his amalgam is going to be able to tell what is going to happen before itís started anyway and itís just a fact that this isnít true. He isnít an infallible ultimate clairvoyant who can tell the future from the outset. It has shown in comics that it doesnít work that way and especially here it wonít work that way.
The telepathy feats Abhi posted are also a kind of problem. Here. The Moondragon feat would be good. But as stated it was a NEWBORN Moondragon. So itís unquantifiable because we canít ascertain how strong a newborn Moondragon is. We also have the feat with Magneto and Xavier perhaps just about peeking into Galactusís mind and the thing is again is this feat was done with the help of Professor X. Stated to be one if not the best mutant mind in the world. SO if Magneto was to use his telepathy in this match he wonít have Xavier to help him here. Then finally we have the Jean Grey feat in which she herself describes her mind as being fuzzy or scrambled. SO she doesnít appear to be 100% anyway. Then Scooblessís amalgam possesses the Enchantress which can provide a decent resistance to TP while having the speed at the same time.

Abhi also has the glaring weakness to Wood. And I donít think it has been correct of Abhi to suggest that it is up to Scoobless to prove she is weakened to it either. He began this by saying that because Jade has absorbed the Starheart that she should now have the resistance to Wood as well. It just doesnít work that way. As far as comics show she hasnít ever been proven to not have a weakness to it and given the prerogative that has been known for this type of thing Jade will have a weakness to Wood unless proven otherwise.
Abhi does have some points that he might be able to sue to get the win over Scoobless on. He perhaps has the ability to let rip an explosion with the force of a Star or emitting light like the Sun to blind the amalgam but really there isnít much to give Abhi plusís for here. The thing is Scoobless has managed to bring up a few points that were pretty much the mainstays of Abhiís argument but Abhi hasnít really managed to do the same thing. Itís been more of a case of Abhi making arguments against Scoobless but he just has the ammo to fire back and he wasnít really affected by fire from Abhi. I just think that due to Scooblessís speed and the ability to exploit multiple weaknesses I just donít think Abhiís amalgam to stand up.

If Scoobless didnít have Jay Garrick as part of his amalgam then I think Abhi would clinch it purely because of the fact that what Abhi brings to the table would be something I donít think Scoobless would be able to argue against. But I just think Jay makes it too easy. And at these speeds he will be able to react at while throwing out an innumerable amount of spells /telepathy.
That isnít to say I donít acknowledge what Abhi brings to the table but I just think he has failed to address the glaring elephant in the room which is Jay Garrick. Any Flash related character is essentially a free Get out of Jail Monopoly card. I just donít think Abhi is going to have the time to pull any of his powers off in time before heís flummoxed with barrages of magic, telepathy and energy blasts before he can reasonably put up a resistance. And I never really touched on Brit yet. Itís just another general character that gives Scooblessís amalgam and increased durability.

So I give Scoobless the win. I will include the planning above so you can get a more in-depth reasoning into what I have said.


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LoB would like to present this championship belt to this year's winner Scoobless.
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Thanks LoB!


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LoB would like to present this championship belt to this year's winner Scoobless.
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Thanks LoB!


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Scoobs won on a sweep. Good job bro and good posts to the voters.


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Oh and congrats Scoob AND Abhi, you both did a great job.

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Oh and congrats Scoob AND Abhi, you both did a great job.


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Oh and congrats Scoob AND Abhi, you both did a great job.


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Cool.

GG abhi.

Good effort put in by the judges.

Thanks for the belt LoB.

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A belt that still has his name on it....


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That's cool, just using it to level a coffee table anyway.


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LoB would like to present this championship belt to this year's winner Scoobless.
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Thanks LoB!


The PEOPLE gave me that belt and it can ONLY be taken away in combat!

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Cool.

GG abhi.

Good effort put in by the judges.

Thanks for the belt LoB.

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