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Khazra Reborn
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It's still annoying. I want DC to just commit to a phucking continuity for more than six months.


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Yeah the whole Flashpoint thing was very much 'Look we have Swamp Thing and Constantine again!' rather than making any actual sense. Especially didn't make sense as they both appeared in Brightest Day stuff just prior to Flashpoint.

So I guess if you wanted to rationalize it you could say it was just an emphasis in the panels on those DCU characters being emphasized/important again.

Personally I'd just ignore it, Vertigoverse was an entire multiverse unto itself anyway and is better being a similar but detached thing to mainstream DCU.


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Yeah the whole Flashpoint thing was very much 'Look we have Swamp Thing and Constantine again!' rather than making any actual sense. Especially didn't make sense as they both appeared in Brightest Day stuff just prior to Flashpoint.

So I guess if you wanted to rationalize it you could say it was just an emphasis in the panels on those DCU characters being emphasized/important again.

Personally I'd just ignore it, Vertigoverse was an entire multiverse unto itself anyway and is better being a similar but detached thing to mainstream DCU.
Constantine, Sandman, Timothy Hunter, and Swamp Thing, etc, were always part of the DCU, they just didn't interact much. It was in the same universe though.


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Oh I know they were meant to, it's just that stopped making sense around the mid 90s, when Vertigo people aged normally and DCU worked on comic time. And then when the Vertigo stuff continued with Lucifer, it came up with it's own backstory and stuff that didn't gel at all with the DCU at the time.

Idk take it as you will, but I got to the point where I just take the Vertigo stuff as a similar but unconnected Multiverse to the mainstream DCU, with the event where they diverge being Moore's Swamp Thing.


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It's basically what DC is doing to their mainstream universe. Not everything is connected (See Geoff Johns JLA to Snyder's Batman), because each has it's own story, but everything is within the DC realm of the multiverse. Lucifer would still be part of the DC Omniverse.


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Dc's continuity is a joke.


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It's basically what DC is doing to their mainstream universe. Not everything is connected (See Geoff Johns JLA to Snyder's Batman), because each has it's own story, but everything is within the DC realm of the multiverse. Lucifer would still be part of the DC Omniverse.
This series will be published under the DC imprint, just like it was when Carey wrote it. However, it will more than likely not address mainstream DC and its...murky continuity. At all.

...And that's a good thing. thumb up


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I'll be honest, I didn't actually hate it.

And I really like the fact that Holly Black has clearly gone over Lucifer/Sandman etc to work out how to continue this. I mean in the first issue she addressed Gabriel's Fall, Mazikeen, Lucifer's lack of power & his meeting with Yahweh in the void and mentions Elaine so I imagine that will come back into play at some point.

I mean there's still something a bit off with Lucifer's voice but it's issue one and I'm actually intrigued who killed God. And I quite like the way they did it- a hole in the Primum Mobile.


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Pretty good, actually. thumb up


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Not a fan. Not as bad as it could have been but I dont think its good either. Huge eye roll on the "no one kills my father but me" line.


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A bit different from Carey's run, but so far it's not bad. Then again it might be a bit early to tell.

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Huge eye roll on the "no one kills my father but me" line.

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Lucifer's characterization is much different than I would have liked, but the issue as a whole wasn't bad. I am glad they introduced additional members of the angel mythology, like Metatron.

I did find this bit interesting, though:
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"I have passed between multiverseS..." smile



Oh and OAS: I don't mind a few scans from the comic being posted here, but keep the full issue in the Ownage thread next time. thumb up


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I did find this bit interesting, though:

"I have passed between multiverseS..." smile

We already knew that though.

Lucifer has his own multiverse, and Yahweh had his; and Lucifer has gone from one to the other.

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Yeah, we always knew it. Others, however, have tried to argue the fact for yearS... So it's nice to have additional confirmation. thumb up


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Artwork looks great.


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Yeah, we always knew it. Others, however, have tried to argue the fact for yearS... So it's nice to have additional confirmation. thumb up

Do you honestly think that Air Legend would be convinced by any evidence from Holly's run?

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Artwork looks great.
It does have that going for it. thumb up

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Do you honestly think that Air Legend would be convinced by any evidence from Holly's run?
Pfft. Mike Carey himself could walk up to him and say: "Look dude, Lucifer created a multiverse", and he'd still argue it.

The guy made nvr seem perfectly reasonable.


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In all fairness, while stubborn, at least Air Legend was well informed and motivated his positions; in contrast to BeyonderGod. But I digress.

When does #2 come out?


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