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Cogito
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You're absolutely right. It makes no sense, as Yahweh essentially abandoned creation... But if Lucifer can inexplicably return in this series, I suppose Yahweh can, too. sick


At least there was a shitty explanation for Lucifer returning though erm

Pretending to continue on the legacies of Gaiman and Carey's brilliant works with this kind of lazy, half-assed writing is insulting, imo.


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I don't think it's that bad, TBH. It doesn't hold a candle to Carey's work, but I didn't expect it to be close. I still enjoy it for the most part.


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It's worse than that bad sick

Not as bad as the Lucifer TV show, but that's based on the comics in the same way Braveheart is based on true events - hardly at all.


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The explanation for Yahweh returning was that Yahweh died in the void, became that egg thing, from which the Anti-God hatched and then returned to creation.


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That said, the very fact that Yahweh was able to be found while outside of creation is ridiculous... Unless, of course, he wanted to be found. /shrug


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Yeah that was slightly weird, as we saw at the end of Carey's run that it takes a lot of willpower and at least some degree of actual power to be able to make sense of and navigate the Void.


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Ok I actually caught up on reading. Things make a bit more sense now, but there's still plot holes big enough to drive a truck through - not to mention gross inconsistencies


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Looks like absolute shit thumb up


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Read the issue. Not sure how much longer I have it in me to continue with this garbage.


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Looks like absolute shit thumb up
Couldn't agree more.

I can't believe how much Black is botching the series. It's sad, tbh.


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Well just read it, very disappointed in it. Glad this is her next to last issue. I hope Richard Kadrey can fix this mess, this woman has turned this into!!!! If she couldn't write up to Carey's level, it's not even half as good, she shouldn't have taken on this project. thumb down


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I read the first issue of this, then completely forgot about it. Judging by everyones comments, it sounds like it's not worth catching up on.


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Nah, it's pretty terrible. It's getting another writer in January, so we'll see if he can salvage the series somehow.


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Ok I just read it a few more times, one of the things that give me some hope for this series, is that at the end Lucifer says "Whatever you are, you may have some of him in you; Perhaps you stole his power as you stole mine, but you are not my father." This makes it seem that Lucifer knows this isn't his dad, and does that mean the real Presences is still in the void? Mazikeen and Lucifer talk at the end and she talks about killing God, is he leading her on instead of telling her he doesn't believe whatever is in the Silver City isn't God? This is all over the place.....


While not as bad as read as the first time I read it, its still not like Carey's work, and at least Black told us her Lucifer would be different and would sit between Gaiman's and Carey's version's. That much is true. If we want to read story's about Lucifer, Gabriel and the other's we are going to have to read this, if we don't like it enough nobody is forced to read it. I messaged Carey about coming back to Lucifer and writing him again on Twitter and he said him and Peter was finished and it was time for other's to write him. And I tweeted Mr. Kadrey about doing better then Holly and he said he's happy with her run and if I hated her run on it I would probably hate his run too.. I don't hate it, I just don't like it when compared to Carey's, hers is just 'okay'. I guess that will have to be good enough if we want to read about the Morningstar..

Me and Carey's tweets
https://twitter.com/michaelcarey191...383445537484804

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Seriously though, another terrible issue. They're celebrating Christmas, ffs, and the whole issue seemed to have just about nothing to do with anything.

And the art....I have no words.


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I do like the idea from today's issue of one of the ways of them to amass power is to find Gabriel's heart that was discarded back in the 90s.

And thankfully the art is back to looking nice.


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Series is still crap...

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The eye-shadow, eye-brow shade and nose job makes Lucifer come across as very feminine. And Lucifer's cheek bones seem to come and go as they please.

Oh well, did the new Ultimates issue come out?


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