I say no since Masaki was born from 2 humans..............
Tsunami kept his father genes....which shows nothing about omnipotence
He has no feats.....
He is only powerscale......
Indeed, the ability to make Lighthawk wings unaided is something that can't be genetically replicated, and not even reality warping can create that ability. Heck, even lesser stuff, like Cabbit abilities, aren't copied by cloning. There is way, way more going on than DNA.
He has going back in time and retroactively be part of his own creation, and the creation of three multiverse creators who can each, individually, alter, reset, and shape universes.
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Now, the real answer is 'what do you consider omnipotence?'. Because a lot of times characters are called omnipotent simply for creating and being supreme over one universe, which, obviously, is way way below Kami Tenchi.
From you.......
1. Creating light hawk wings from nothing is impressive?......i can name a bunch of characters who could copy LHWs.....but then again Z already stated they're the chousin "Life force".
2. he is going back in time?......that makes 0 sense since the choushin created everything and he did not.....thats a contradiction+Paradox in itself.
3. Kami tenchi didnt do anything you stated.....He isnt supreme....he isnt Omnipresent,Omniscient or Omnipotent.....
Creating lighthawk wings *without* drawing on the goddesses is something only two known non-Choushin beings can do, Z and Tenchi. Everyone else only draws on Tsunami through the Royal Trees (Juraians), or through Washu's gems (Ryoko).
While some stuff may be able to make LHW-ish things, true Lighthawk Wings have some unusual properties that set them apart. Again, even someone capable of just snapping their fingers and re-setting a universe to how it was a day before, recreating destroyed beings and galaxies, and so on, cannot just make someone who can independently make LHWs, even total molecular, space, etc. control would just create an otherwise functionally identical being who lacks that ability.
Or to put it another way, being able to make three or five light hawk wings in itself isn't what's so special about Tenchi or Z, but those wings are a signifier of an anomaly that it took the creation of countless universes to make happen.
He created the Choushin. And yes, paradox. He created the goddesses who created the universe that Tenchi arose in that lead to him becoming Kami Tenchi, whereup he made the Choushin. Kami Tenchi can exist in a paradox.
Note, this was the point of the Choushin creating the universes in the first place, to see if they could make a being greater than themselves.
Personally, I don't really think the word 'omnipotent' is properly applied to just about any fictional being, but they are higher in feats than, say, Marvel's Beyonders, Marvel's Eternities, or so on.
Uh... I understand the Kami tenchi thing, but if the Chousin created a being more powerful than themselves, then they aren't considerable as truly omnipotent. Which is one of the reasons that omnipotence in itself is a paradox. An omnipotent being can't create a rock too heavy for itself to throw, but that means that it isn't omnipotent. So it isn't truly omnipotent either way.
This would make Kami Tenchi omnipotent, and the Chousin nigh-omnipotent.
Well true, he does certainly have greater feats than most fictional beings, but I don't think that necessarily makes him omnipotent.
There are plenty of other beings in fiction who have claimed to be omnipotent. Such as Aizen, who's feats don't even compare to things that the Hulk has done. Hulk was also called omnipotent, lol. As well as Odin, and many other beings who have been defeated plenty of times.
And creating a universe doesn't make you omnipotent either. If that were true, then Superboy Prime would be omnipotent, given that he had the capacity to fly through Oa at light speed, causing a new big bang that would have created a new universe.
Not saying Kami Tenchi isn't omnipotent here, just putting in my own two cents. I haven't seen enough of Tenchi Muyo to form a developed opinion anyway.
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First and foremost, define what you mean with omnipotence. When Odin or Darkseid are attributed with omnipotence the writers aren't technically wrong. It's just that their definition of omnipotence—in the given context—differs from the definition used in contemporary philosophy.
If you're asking whether or not Kami Tenchi has the ability carry out any action then the answer would be that there is not enough evidence in canon to give a conclusive answer.
To give another example, Kami Tenchi's stronger than Marvel's Beyonders. The Choushin have greater feats than them but without their inability to time travel.
Which is one of the silly things when people use the term, which is why I don't like using the term.
Being 1 can be show to do X, being 2 can be shown to do X raised to the Xth power, but because of something like the above, being 2 having some limit or such, some will discount the greater show of feats.
Each of the Choushin are much more powerful in feats than many beings in fiction to whom omnipotences is ascribed, like, say, Eru from Lord of the Rings, but some people, because of their weird issues with the word 'omnipotence,' will ignore the greater feats and assume the less-powerful one is stronger.
Then getting around to Kami Tenchi, there's nothing stronger than him, so even if one is more concerned with that than scale of feats, he's about as close as you're going to get.
I.e. if you go by feats, the Choushin are already in the top tier of fictional beings.
If you go by 'doesn't have anything that can stop them/known limits,' then Kami Tenchi is. After all, all we know is he's much beyond beings who are already in the top tier of universe creators in terms of scale of power.
The only real differences would be, we know KT can trump the Chōshin, and we know he can undo the Counteractor (which is basically a manifestation of the old 'rock you can't lift' problem, being made of the accumulated Choushin meddling in the universe) without having to destroy and re-create the universe first.
Considering the Chōshin are already multiverse creators, and not just of normal universes but of a huge number of higher dimensional universes too, that's pretty good.
I mean, feat scale wise, that is around tops already, so 'that, but trumps that and minus the few tiny limitations there,' covers just about everything.
One, 'actual full blown omnipotence' still doesn't tell us what definition of omnipotence you're using. I would strongly suspect that you'd have trouble naming something that'd fit all the definitions anyway, and what you can omni tier
And two, again, created and is greater than infinite multiversal creators.
Here's the basic problem with this conversation:
"Kami Tenchi's not omnipotent, right?"
"Well, Kami Tenchi is X, Y, and Z. What do you consider omni tier?"
"Kami Tenchi's not in it! Really!"
Definite your terms or it doesn't mean much of anything.
Just like Astner said, Odin and Darkseid have full blown omnipotence under a real definition of the term- when someone uses it, they are not being incorrect, even if a lot of people don't use that definition.
... because if they fully manifest, they'll destroy the universe. The Counteractor itself is basically made of choushin power accumulated in the 3d universe, but even so, the only thing preventing them from wiping the universe and resetting it was the presence of Z and Tenchi.
Their feats are beyond his, massively so. They created endless universes. That's much higher.
Heck, a lot of what he does is destroy troublesome universes, and they can do that simply by existing unrestrained. A Choushin doesn't have to do anything to destroy a universe, they just have to decide to not put limits in place.
He created and embodied a reality millions of times larger than the Marvel multiverse. He could casually emasculate the Living Tribunal (who, to be fair, might have been weaker at that point in Marvel canon), Eternity, Galactus, etc. Even Molecule Man, himself a reality warper more powerful than said abstracts by an enormous margin, said that the difference between Beyonder and him was comparable to the difference between Molecule Man and Captain America (hyperbole to be sure, but it does support Beyonder being in a tier of power entirely of his own at the time in Marvel).
Anyway, omnipotence is relative. In the Tenchiverse, he is effectively omnipotent. How would he compare to omnipotents from other series that have more accomplished far more? We can't say, we don't know.
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