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FreshestSlice
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Shaak Ti wasn't amped because Marek shifted the balance again, cuz any presence can do that. Duh.

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Well, since it immediately turned Dark when she passed, one could argue she was hindered due to the containing of a Planet's worth of Dark Side Energies (please log in to view the image)


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So Sidious was hindered by maintaining imbalance in the Force across the galaxy?


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Nah. The Force just surrendered like a cheap whore. It's not the same.

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Nope:

A vergence is a place where the Force concentrates like a whirlpool in a flowing river. That place may be a small cave or an entire planet where light and dark constantly vie for surpremacy.

...

One lesser known vergence that Nexus of Power introduces to Force and Destiny is the Wellspring of Life, a type of legendary, light side vergence that can only be found with the Force as your guide.


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1. It depends how you treat Legend and Canon sources. Since that is a new Canon sourcebook. Yet Legend is full of Force Nexuses that logically should be Light Side, yet they aren't. Such as the Pool of Knowledge, and the Sacred Spire.

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The Dark Side was strong on Felucia, and Shaak Ti was a beacon in that Darkness
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I was always under the impression that THE VALLEY OF THE JEDI was pretty close. wink

Felucia didn't Shaak use Kinatite on that planet, an ability not even Darth Vader could use without being close to a force boosting artifact. So yea there are light side nexus as well as Dark Side. Most likely aren't as well known, but still.

Also Dooku and Vos are greater than Ti and Galen in terms of deuling. So yes I see Vos taking Galen down with his blade, so I'm not seeing your point.


How could the Valley of the Jedi be a Light Side Nexus when Jerec used it? confused

Vader couldn't use Kinetite, because he can't use lightning.

Dooku is a better duelist than Galen, no doubt. But Galen has superior force feats, even that early.

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Sidious caused an imbalance by massacring thousands and performing Rituals.

It was Shaak's will that kept Felucia in balance, and her battle meditation of the Felucian race (please log in to view the image)


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Nah. The Force just surrendered like a cheap whore. It's not the same.
It didn't put up much of a fight no, but as soon as Palpatine died the dark side undeniable receded, so clearly he was holding back something.

Surely, by this logic, that would have demanded a degree of exertion? A cheap whore isn't going to plough herself. thumb up
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Sidious caused an imbalance by massacring thousands and performing Rituals.

It was Shaak's will that kept Felucia in balance, and her battle meditation of the Felucian race (please log in to view the image)
So his power and presence in the Force had nothing to do with it? Strange that it would all be undone by his death then.


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Nope. He ignored it because he got what he wanted from it.

As for what cs said, and because the quote function isn't working again, it's a source about a legends nexus, calling it a light side nexus. Just admit you're wrong and move on.

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Kek, all joking aside, even if Light Side Nexuses exist now (which is retarded, given the very nature of Light vs Dark) it doesn't mean she was amped. I fail to see how someone whose maintaining a Nexus can draw upon it at the same time. Even if you argue she was influencing the Felucians as some people here do, surely doing such while fighting offsets any potential nexus...


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1. It depends how you treat Legend and Canon sources. Since that is a new Canon sourcebook. Yet Legend is full of Force Nexuses that logically should be Light Side, yet they aren't. Such as the Pool of Knowledge, and the Sacred Spire.
It was originally Legends then made Canon, and as a result, blends the two. As for the rest, that's your opinion Manneus, seem like light side nexuses to me. Which makes perfect sense considering the Ying/Yang nature of the Force.

@Sel Palpatine maintained a DS nexus on Byss and benefited from it. Its a reciprocal relationship, you put power in, it gives more back. thumb up


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Kek, all joking aside, even if Light Side Nexuses exist now (which is retarded, given the very nature of Light vs Dark) it doesn't mean she was amped. I fail to see how someone whose maintaining a Nexus can draw upon it at the same time. Even if you argue she was influencing the Felucians as some people here do, surely doing such while fighting offsets any potential nexus...


Pretty much. DE Sidious was a DS Nexus, doesn't mean he could draw power from himself. That's just asinine.
Plus Ti was multitasking with the Sarlacc and stuffz.

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@Sel Palpatine maintained a DS nexus on Byss and benefited from it. Its a reciprocal relationship, you put power in, it gives more back. thumb up


He benefited from it by Force Draining them, which in and of itself was a huge Dark Side perversion that furthered the Nexus. You can't do that with a Light Side nexus, that's not how the Light Side works.

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Light Side nexus existed before. Even in TOR, Tython is noted to be a Light Side nexus. Not sure why it's so unbelievable that the Light Side just isn't the only natural form of the Force anymore. Force and Destiny definitely paints that picture.

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Light Side nexus existed before. Even in TOR, Tython is noted to be a Light Side nexus. Not sure why it's so unbelievable that the Light Side just isn't the only natural form of the Force anymore. Force and Destiny definitely paints that picture.


Quote? All I've heard is the "unlike Tython, Odessen is entirely balanced" thing, which could just as easily be referring to the fact there were numerous Dark nexuses on Tython mixed in with the rest. It's not unbelievable, just confusing, since per Che publication dates don't matter when dealing with contradictions, it's an interesting change of direction.

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As for the rest, that's your opinion Manneus, seem like light side nexuses to me.

@Sel Palpatine maintained a DS nexus on Byss and benefited from it. Its a reciprocal relationship, you put power in, it gives more back. thumb up


Mhm, except, you know, how come Abeloth became something dark and covetous after using the Pool of Knowledge and the Font of Power (ds nexus)? Shouldn't they cancel each other out? Also how come Nyax could use a nexus that was in the Jedi Temple? Are you implying that the whole Jedi Order was sitting on a DS Nexus? Even though it was called a Force Nexus, so yeah...

As for Byss, quote? Causing and maintaining is not the same, brah.

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He benefited from it by Force Draining them, which in and of itself was a huge Dark Side perversion that furthered the Nexus. You can't do that with a Light Side nexus, that's not how the Light Side works.
No it's not, the DS drains life, the light side gives it.

Consider that for a moment, in terms of entire planet teeming with life forms fauna and flora alike, all now thanks to Shaak Ti's influence tipping the scales, drawing on the light side of the Force, generating light side energy. The planet would be saturated with the stuff, Marek himself says as much:

The entire jungle was alive with the Force, from the tiniest spore to the mightiest rancor, and the Felucians themselves were alive with it, too-so alive, in fact, that they tapped into the Force as naturally as humans breathed an oxygen-rich atmosphere.

And it was all at Shaak Ti's fingertips.

This is what I mean when I say a reciprocal relationship, Shaak Ti helped the light side win the war on Felucia, and to the victor goes the spoils. And of course let's not ignore the fact that Marek would have likewise had his powers stifled while in enemy territory.

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Watching Zoltan and Beni discussing SW concepts is like listening through https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C4uTEEOJlM&t=0m04s


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Mhm, except, you know, how come Abeloth became something dark and covetous after using the Pool of Knowledge and the Font of Power (ds nexus)? Shouldn't they cancel each other out? Also how come Nyax could use a nexus that was in the Jedi Temple? Are you implying that the whole Jedi Order was sitting on a DS Nexus? Even though it was called a Force Nexus, so yeah...
Because the dark side is dominating & corruptive. thumb up

And we are referring to the Sacred Spire, not the nexus locked away beneath the Temple, where presumably it could not be swayed.
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As for Byss, quote? Causing and maintaining is not the same, brah.
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Watching Zoltan and Beni discussing SW concepts is like listening through https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C4uTEEOJlM&t=0m04s
I understand that anything beyond hype and feats is beyond your comprehension but there is no need to be salty about it.


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