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Whis & Beerus vs. Odin & Zeus (Marvel)

Whis & Beerus

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1. Zeus
2. Odin
3. Odin & Zeus


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Beerus solos.


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Beerus solos.


Of Course he does.

It could be insert DBZ character vs TOAA, and TOAA would still lose.

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Nope not true at all ^


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But what is true is Beerus nor Whis are in absolutely no way defeating a guy who destroys galaxies as a side effect.

Nope, Beerus couldn't replicate that feat. Nope, Whis couldn't either. But this is DBZ so I expect logic to fly right the hell out the window. These people think Goku can wiggle his pinky and take out the Living Tribunal. They make Superman and even Hulk fanboys look like down to earth rational people.

Now, let the ABC logic commence.


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Beerus and Goku were going to accidentally destroy the universe with half a dozen punches. So the long days of DB characters being little more than planet busting is long gone.

That said I know nothing about the other dudes. Just explaining why there is a spike in new DBS content.


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One punch would possibly ko


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Beerus and Goku were going to accidentally destroy the universe with half a dozen punches. So the long days of DB characters being little more than planet busting is long gone.

That said I know nothing about the other dudes. Just explaining why there is a spike in new DBS content.


It was through a shockwave.

A shockwave a point blank didn't do anything. It had to gain momentum and power to be effective first.

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Beerus and Goku were going to accidentally destroy the universe with half a dozen punches. So the long days of DB characters being little more than planet busting is long gone.

That said I know nothing about the other dudes. Just explaining why there is a spike in new DBS content.


So you say were going to..something tells me they didn't actually destroy any universe then, yes?


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It was through a shockwave.

A shockwave a point blank didn't do anything. It had to gain momentum and power to be effective first.


The feat was also done with both using less than full strength and what threatened to destroy the universe was residual energy, not the actual full force. As fighters in this universe use ki to amplify their physical attacks the point is not really that Goku or Beerus can punch the universe into oblivion. It is that they are capable of generating enough energy to do so, which means ki blasts would logically do more.

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So you say were going to..something tells me they didn't actually destroy any universe then, yes?


No but from a writing standpoint why would the writer destroy the universe? His reset button(Dragon Balls) are nowhere near powerful enough to fix that and it is hard to like either Goku or Beerus if they wiped out all life in a single universe in a fight for fun.

The intention of the scene is clear and supports what had been foreshadowed earlier("If Beerus uses his full power he could destroy the universe!") the best way it can.

Edit: None of this is to say Beerus and Whis win. I don't know why the opposition are capable of and I have no real vested interest in the penis measuring contest that is DBZ vs the MU/DCU.


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It was through a shockwave.

A shockwave a point blank didn't do anything. It had to gain momentum and power to be effective first.
You're not familiar with the laws of conservation of energy and momentum, are you?


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You're not familiar with the laws of conservation of energy and momentum, are you?

I'm not sure Toriyama knows that either or cares for that matter.

I have no idea who would win this though.

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You're not familiar with the laws of conservation of energy and momentum, are you?


They punched one another, nothing happened at the point of impact. Wave travel through space, gain momentum and energy, then became a threat.

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But what is true is Beerus nor Whis are in absolutely no way defeating a guy who destroys galaxies as a side effect.


They can beat guys capable of destroying universes as a side effect...

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T1, of course. Zeus and Odin would be like statues compared to them.


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So you say were going to..something tells me they didn't actually destroy any universe then, yes?


The Shockwave ofor their punches were crossing overror through the entirety of the Universe (this ft alone puts them above Odin) erupting suns and destroying planets and their last punch was going to annihilate the universe. There's no taking away from this ft.


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They punched one another, nothing happened at the point of impact. Wave travel through space, gain momentum and energy, then became a threat.


No one is falling for your mess.


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We don't need that feat at all. We do know that Zeus and Odin are slow, that's all that is needed here.

Whis, aside from ludicrous levels of fighting and travelling speeds, can also fight pretty much without thinking. Makes the telepathy that Odin possesses useless.

Beerus is not much slower and trained to do the same thing (which, admittedly, he hasn't mastered - but he really doesn't need to against these two).

Without speed being equalized, there's nothing to discuss here.


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Iirc Pre Retcon Beyonder never destroyed a universe. But people say he can. So I'm tired of hearing this "theirs don't count."


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No one is falling for your mess.


You know Carver, i take you as serious as a dog takes a flea.

I may not know much about about Zeus and Odin, but am pretty sure saying team DBZ beats them casually is bullshit.

If you're so sure about team DBZ, why don't you continue to debate in the Dark Schneider thread?

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