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Will the First Order make the old Imperial regime look weak ?

Do you also believe like myself that the new trilogy of villains will eclipse Palpatine and his old regime in terms of power and combat abilities. Snoke may very well >>Palpatine thus undermining his history and accomplishments.

A big takeaway from this particular Force Awakens advertisement is that the tone is more dark and serious when compared to the other ones. Viewers get the impression that the galaxy is in dire times, with the Galactic Civil War still raging on 30 years after Emperor Palpatine was defeated. The First Order is shaping up to be an intimidating force that’s even stronger than the old Imperial regime. Their army observing what is most likely the Starkiller base weapon in action is an image that immediately conveys the magnitude of their power and the tremendous odds stacked against the Resistance as they fight for freedom in the galaxy.

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I really doubt it. While potentially quite individually badass, they don't have near the scale or resources.

It's dark and serious because the characters facing it are on one planet (or whatever) and are locally going to be pretty badly outmatched.

Note how the darkest of the original trilogy was the only one without a Death Star, the Imperials deployed the smallest amount of forces there.


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I wonder how they'll compare to the Imperial Remnant/Chiss Empire


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Not at all.

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That range, or even stronger, is quite possible.


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I sense there is a lack of faith in the First Order. I do not doubt the power of the first order.


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I mean, they've lost much of the galaxy and are a group aiming to reverse those loses and expand again. That pretty much states that they don't have the power of the Empire.


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I mean, they've lost much of the galaxy and are a group aiming to reverse those loses and expand again. That pretty much states that they don't have the power of the Empire.
Greater numbers doesn't necessarily mean greater power. Star killer should give you an idea of what the First Order is capable of in this new film. I get that it's all speculation at this point but I have a feelin'.


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Greater numbers doesn't necessarily mean greater power. Star killer should give you an idea of what the First Order is capable of in this new film. I get that it's all speculation at this point but I have a feelin'.



It means more military power at least.


As for personal power... I doubt they're going to surpass Vader or Sidious, but there could be more darksiders among them.


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It means more military power at least.


As for personal power... I doubt they're going to surpass Vader or Sidious, but there could be more darksiders among them.
Well I personally think the star killer is going to be a lot more powerful than the Death Star.

If the starkiller base is greater than the deathstar then to me it makes sense to make Snoke > Palpatine. Hell, if he turned out to be Darth Plagueis then that's pretty much a given.


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If the starkiller base is greater than the deathstar then to me it makes sense to make Snoke > Palpatine. Hell, if he turned out to be Darth Plagueis then that's pretty much a given.


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It is yet to be seen.

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Probably not. The SK base is more than likely going to be some chain reaction weapon, while the Death Star is all power. Oh, and SW>ST.


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Probably not. The SK base is more than likely going to be some chain reaction weapon, while the Death Star is all power. Oh, and SW>ST.
If the chain reaction has greater power than the Death Star beam then it is more powerful.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's a vague statement. What do you mean by it ? In what capacity ?


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That doesn't make much sense to me. Like, for example the Sun Crusher in the old SW EU used some missile that released some weird thing to make stars to go Supernova, yet when it hit the Death Star prototype, it just dissolved some of it and didn't do any real damage. Could be the same case with the Starkiller base.

Pretty much everything barring exotic technology. And of course God like beings but when I talk about SW vs. ST I usually refer to the Empire vs. Federation.


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I doubt it; the technology of the SK from what we've seen seems decidedly superior to the Death Star.

That being said, using that as evidence for Snoke being more powerful than Palpatine is beyond retarded.


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Has any new info of the SK even been revealed? All I know is that it destroys entire star systems. However that works hasn't been revealed to us as of yet, well as far as I know.


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