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But he DID get sent to the future. Aku being killed AFTER Jack is sent forward wouldn't undo that. Not any more then destroying a plane after the passengers depart would prevent their trip.

It WOULD undo Aku existing in the future, though.
Honestly, if Genndy is going to acknowledge time paradoxes, both Old Jack and Ashi should have ceased existing (had Aku died in the past, Jack would never have had any of the experiences he did while in the future, including traveling back in time to stop Aku). And young Jack should either cease existing as well or wake up in a timeline where everything is normal.

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I suppose we could always say the gods prevented a paradox. The tea ceremony (One of my favorite episodes) made it clear higher powers had an intense interest in his journey.


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and saving all those countless lives he ruined was the morally correct thing to do
No it wasn't, changing the past is never the morally correct thing to do. thumb down

Anyway, season was ultimately a huge disappointment. Kind of sucked tbh famalam.


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Honestly, if Genndy is going to acknowledge time paradoxes, both Old Jack and Ashi should have ceased existing (had Aku died in the past, Jack would never have had any of the experiences he did while in the future, including traveling back in time to stop Aku). And young Jack should either cease existing as well or wake up in a timeline where everything is normal.
If old Jack ceased to exist, then wouldn't that mean that he never went back in time to kill Aku?


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Ahh the fun of talking the actual results of Time Paradoxes.

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Also, this reminds me, so Aku eventually stopped using his little fire TV to watch Jack when he realized that Jack wasn't aging and he was overcome by depression, right?

Only, Jack lost his sword almost moments after Aku destroyed the last time portal. So wouldn't he have known that Jack no longer had his sword and would have been helpless against him, which would lead to Aku killing him?


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So if everyone knew Jack was going to go back in time and change the past, does that mean Scotsman was ok with the chance of his daughters no longer existing? That doesn't seem right. That doesn't seem right at all.


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If old Jack ceased to exist, then wouldn't that mean that he never went back in time to kill Aku?


More of a Time Remenant. The whole timeline unravels and no one exists anymore.

Basically, under that model, Old Jack destroyed his universe. wink


..maybe. When Byrne wrote Superman and Etrigan traveling to the past to stop Morgan Le Fey from creating a piece of jewelery that infected a woman and turned humans into living towers, taking over the city, his answer to this problem was having Supes move his body in front of the spell that created the artifact, which should have killed him.. Instead, time reset to him never having traveled back in time, because the artifact was never made.

So who the hell stopped it from being made???

I hate time travel.


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Also, this reminds me, so Aku eventually stopped using his little fire TV to watch Jack when he realized that Jack wasn't aging and he was overcome by depression, right?

Only, Jack lost his sword almost moments after Aku destroyed the last time portal. So wouldn't he have known that Jack no longer had his sword and would have been helpless against him, which would lead to Aku killing him?
The plot in this season was as thin as paper.

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I suppose we could always say the gods prevented a paradox. The tea ceremony (One of my favorite episodes) made it clear higher powers had an intense interest in his journey.
The gods must be some real assholes then considering what they did with Ashi. laughing out loud

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So if everyone knew Jack was going to go back in time and change the past, does that mean Scotsman was ok with the chance of his daughters no longer existing? That doesn't seem right. That doesn't seem right at all.
dude killing your daughters and yourself is the morally right thing to do shut up


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Did they explain what happened to the Time Portal and the Guardian?


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Dumb question. Did ashi's power fix the stop aging thing? If Jack still technically exists outside of time or whatever, that gives him free reign to mess with time with no personal consequences. Just a thought.

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Did they explain what happened to the Time Portal and the Guardian?


Took an army of giant robots, but he dead

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Did they explain what happened to the Time Portal and the Guardian?




We just see his broken eyeglasses.

Odds are, Aku killed him. Nothing else could probably do it except an immortal, invulnerable sorcerer with only one real weakness (No reason to believe Guardians weapons, Scottsmans claymore, or anything else could do more then slow Aku down.)


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I would wonder how a guy with a device that lets him see the future didn't see it coming.


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That's another thing I dislike about the final episode: making this completely pointless.



Prophecy? King Jack? Rematch with the Guardian? Nah. Let's just forget about all that ]:<


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Easiest explanation is that the portal being destroyed before that happening ...changed the future????


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Remember the Guardian didn't just use the portal like a crystal ball, but that someone seemed to speak to him through it. It's why he stopped beating on Jack.

So it could be the gods were just lying to him. "Yeah, guard this portal because Jack has a destiny, and you'll die in glorious battle! Would we mess with you? *Whispers* Can't wait to see the look on that assholes face when Aku kills him like a chump."


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