Or the 3rd option: it could be he is still employed. Remember the story of Job? Satan had the permission of God to do all kinds of horrible shit to him. Up to and including murdering his children. All basically just to see if Job will denounce God. He doesn't and eventually the people are brought back to life.
It's almost like the story of a battered housewife who won't leave her abusive husband no matter what he does.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
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That is how it goes though. I just looked it up on wiki to make sure my memory wasn't off. God essentially goes on about how pious Job is. Satan isn't evil, but he suggests to God the only reason is because he has all this stuff(wealth, a family, etc.)
He gets permission from God to do all kinds of horrible shit to Job, but Job still doesn't denounce God. In this role Satan is not an adversary, but more or less an advisor. Out to test humanity, but not necessarily harboring ill intent.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
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That comment was mostly a joke, but Job was supposed to be the battered housewife. I.E. horrible shit keeps happening and he doesn't denounce God. You will note that is different from simply not letting bad luck get you down, since when your kids are all murdered and your wealth is gone and then suddenly the boils and shit start..it becomes pretty obvious this stuff is being done on purpose.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
Last edited by Surtur on Dec 20th, 2015 at 03:22 PM
Frankly, I view the Satan in Job as a separate figure. There's a tendency to conflate everyone portrayed as 'on the other side' as the same individual. See: The Serpent for another example.
The one in Job had a role roughly similar to an attorney presenting a case. I took that to be a non-traitorous Angel with a nasty job.
In Hebrew, the word Satan means prosecutor. It is not a name, it is a title.
In 13 of the 14 times a Satan is referenced in the Old Testament, he is obediently serving as a prosecutor in the court of God, presenting people to Him for judgment.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
There is the other version of Satan(called Sataniel or Satariel) from the Book of Enoch who was basically the leader of a group of angels tasked with watching humanity. They were only supposed to observe. But they fell in love with humans and wanting to be with them and rebelled so they could take on bodies and be with them. Or something along those lines.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
Last edited by Surtur on Dec 24th, 2015 at 03:51 AM
Nah the Book of Enoch. Which admittedly has..a lot of strange stuff in it.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
Which is another problem with the bible as it was a council of people who decided which religious texts to reject and which to accept.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
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