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rat·i·fy verb sign or give formal consent to a treaty, contract, agreement, etc., making it officially valid

I do not think that word means what you think it does.






Orly?

"Slaves obey your masters," is straight from the New Testament.

I think you will find you will have a harder time "using the New Testament" then I will.


Yes that was the law of the land.

Nice try.

Also don't quote scripture at me, cause I will only destroy you more then I already do. I read the bible 3 times from to back.


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Those passages in Deuteronomy describe the complete opposite of what Asbestos was saying. God was notvforcing Himself on anyone, but He was protecting His people from the spread of false religion.


The god of the Torah commands that if someone attempts to leave or convince others to leave the faith, that not only should he be executed, but that every person, guilty and innocent, young and old, in the entire city should be executed as well, and the entire town burned to the ground, never to be rebuilt.

The god of the Quran simply takes this one step further and commands believers to force non-believers to join the faith or die.

How is the latter somehow more egregious than the former? Both commands are completely immoral and absolutely abhorrent. I fail to see how Christians have the high ground here.


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Yes that was the law of the land.

Nice try.

Also don't quote scripture at me, cause I will only destroy you more then I already do. I read the bible 3 times from to back.


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For some odd reason, I noticed that most atheists are pro-Islam, pro-Buddhism, pro-any-religion... except Christianity. It's like Christianity is their worst enemy. They treat Christians like they're the scum of the Earth. They always use the Crusades of the ol' Roman Catholic empires as an excuse for the CURRENT situation regarding Islamic terrorist attacks.

Past is past, people. Get over it. The Crusades are long over. It's time we accept that Radical Islam is the enemy, and has to eliminated at all costs, innocent lives be damned.


Here is the thing you don't get though. Christianity is focused on because that religion has a vastly larger effect on this country then Islam or anything else. You see Radical Islam is the enemy, but you say it as if it's the only threat. Christianity represents are different kind of problem, it's more subtle..not something physical.

As much as people might be afraid of terrorists, Christianity has far more of an effect on the everyday lives of people in this country.


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Here is the thing you don't get though. Christianity is focused on because that religion has a vastly larger effect on this country then Islam or anything else. You see Radical Islam is the enemy, but you say it as if it's the only threat. Christianity represents are different kind of problem, it's more subtle..not something physical.

As much as people might be afraid of terrorists, Christianity has far more of an effect on the everyday lives of people in this country.



Also, consider location- Which atheists is one hearing from? American, sometimes European atheists, mostly, right?

I.e. they are people who grew up surrounded by Christians and are often former Christians. They focus on Christianity because it's what they know.

Atheists from Indonesia, Turkey, etc. will complain about Islam more because that's what *they* know. India? Hindu- and btw, I do a group of wandering atheists in India who travel around disproving mystical feats (stuff like sticking needles in the tongue, or pulling a vehicle with hooks in the flesh without bleeding) by performing them, and then explaining the science behind them.


To paraphrase one standup comedian-
"People sometimes ask me, 'you do jokes about all these other groups, why don't you do jokes about Muslims?', and I tell them,
'I don't do jokes about Muslims because I don't know anything about Muslims and neither do you.' "


Most English speaks know, at best, a very rough sketch of what Islam is like, and even of those who know more, they often only know about one or two particular cultures. An Indonesia Muslim- biggest Muslim culture in the world- is a fairly different thing from a Pakistani Muslims from a Turkish Muslim from an Egyptian Muslim.

Plus, of course, there's often big religion debates and groups within the same countries!


Consider, say, having a Mormon, a Roman Catholic, a Quaker, and a Southern Evangelical, and talking to all of them as if they all focused on the same things and had identical beliefs. Only, not even having enough knowledge of them to know what they had in common, but having to rely on second-hand accounts, and/or work on the similarities between it and Christianity.

That's pretty much where most people are. They don't *know* Muslims, let alone the real ins-and-outs of the religion.


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Proof?


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LOL. No, it isn't. Muslims started that shit but I'm not surprised that you're one of those who buys into that anti-Christian propaganda bullshit that claims Christians were the instigators of that conflict.


See above.

Though, just to specify, I was referring to this:

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But yes, every single liberal here is pro Islam and Anti Christianity.


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Ur pro Islam


Yes. And pro-Christianity. And pro-Buddhism, Hinduism etc.

So your point is still wrong.


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It certainly seems like he is while also being anti-Christian. He's not alone though. Seems like the overwhelming majority of people who post in GDF or religion forum are the same way. Of course, they're all left-leaning. Another big surprise.


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Exactly, Asbestos... Exactly. Israel too.


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Is the Aethism movement using Islam to defeat Christianity through political correctness and linsky tactics.


Yes. Notice how everything atheists accuse Christians of doing muslims do 100x worse. Even liberals like Sam Harris and Bill Maher say that liberals are pro-islamic.

Clearly the reason the left backs islam is as a way to neutralize/suppress Christianity. However they will be singing a different tune when their kids start getting raped by radical muslims.

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Past is past, people. Get over it. The Crusades are long over. It's time we accept that Radical Islam is the enemy, and has to eliminated at all costs, innocent lives be damned.
So we hate radical Islam for taking innocent lives, so the solution is to destroy radical Islam at whatever cost to innocent life.



And you still consider yourself the good guy?


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Most liberals/atheists are not smart enough to see every sterotype they have about Christians applies to Muslims just 10X more extreme. Thats just a fact.


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So we hate radical Islam for taking innocent lives, so the solution is to destroy radical Islam at whatever cost to innocent life.



And you still consider yourself the good guy?


A real solution

http://conservativetribune.com/japan-shut-down-islam/

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Most liberals/atheists are not smart enough to see every sterotype they have about Christians applies to Muslims just 10X more extreme. Thats just a fact.
Who are you the sock account of?


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A real solution

http://conservativetribune.com/japan-shut-down-islam/
So banning people from immigrating because they believe in a different religion and we're afraid of them... makes you the good guy? How is that not just the lesser of two evil solutions?


"America the brave" lol


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Are you saying Japan is the bad guy, just because they do not accept Muslim immigrants?


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