I'm showing you how flawed your logic is. And again you simply try to find ways around it. You constantly use the high feats for marvel characters and then bring up the low ones for DC. Yes, using his worst feat in history as a way to say they can dodge them is lowballing. Also yes he was able to dodge them. If you aren't trying to lowball then there's no reason to bring up his lowest feat in history.
Also yes you compared Batmans speed to the heralds and tried to say they could dodge because Batman did
Also, don't bring up rules when you are constantly breaking the no PIS and Full capacity rule
Last edited by Decter on Jan 11th, 2016 at 05:38 AM
Um, what constant high feats do I show for Marvel? I'm not a feats guy. Don't be mad because bringing up Omega Beams didn't have the desired effect. The bottom line is they have failed on more than one occasion.....with multiple charcters. Nothing faulty about stating facts. Now, you straight with the board rules? Never embarass yourself by bringing up crossovers and drawing conclusions about power levels, no one ever makes that mistake.
Wow still ignoring that your own logic has flaws and you still are trying to get around it. Not surprised. You brought up rules yet you constantly break the "PIS" rule. Failed multiple times? Of course never said they didn't. Who did it exactly? Pre Crisis superman was one who is a lot faster than most of the people here. However, on average PC superman was tagged more than he dodged them.
Now since you want to keep derailing this thread with your petty lowballing let's get back on track.
Darksied has mind controlled PC superman AND Martian Manhunter at the same time
He stole Cyborg Supermans Soul
He caused a huge collapse with his time manipulation http://imgur.com/a/4az6k
He turned Slobo into a Statue with matter manipulation and completely incinerated Kalibak
With TK he shut down the Legion of Superheroes
And his omega beams have consistently caught and one shotted heralds
Really? You did a search for that? Different context, dude. I was talking about how lower characters often engage and are not dominated by higher ones all the time in comics. He was actually using a crossover scenario as continuity/proof.
There you are with your bullshit crutch excuse again. Everyone you don't like losing was "weakened." HTF do you even weaken a character like Darkseid? Get out of here with that weak sauce. Powergirl "pushed his shit in", the ancient phrase you love to wear out. The shit counts, period. She snatched his eye out during a fight, one is which he was landing blows just fine. Weakened.....
I said that by going by YOUR logic, pre flashpoint superman would be stronger than Silver surfer which I already know you disagree with.
Being allowed or not was not part of why I brought it up. It was brought up because Darksied is constantly portrayed above Superman. However, it is considered PIS for superman beating Darksied unless context was involved.
I didn't even mention surfer in my first post with the OB either when I was listing off people he one shotted.