I guess I have to waste one of my posts but, what Blair is doing in this thread, I don't think that is allowed. We didn't do a fusion dance and combined our characters...if I read everything right, our characters are 1 entity which means, there's no separation. I don't even know how to reply to his post. Nothing against you Blair...I'm just a Lil confused right now and I'm sure this battle style you have going on here will not fly with the judges. This is a amalgam battle.
hmmm. I’ve given Carver weeks to counter my doctrine of blood. His only attempt at trying to counter me was to mention my pre-battle tactics. Obviously he’s scared of The Gospel of Oblivion and doesn’t want to convert - because he knows he’s going to perish
Carver Confused by Confundus Charm
Let's take a look at the rules for a second:
What are we left with after that?
Amalgam battles that are not limited by things like specifics from each character (ie: “Power/Body/Mind”) have never in the history of KMC tournaments been limited to any one set of amalgams combinations. I’ve used this tactic before (I fused Braniac 8 with Madison Jefferies and had Aquarian all by himself in another tournament), I’ve seen other opponents use it before, and no where in this specific set of rules does it state it is not allowed.
Now let's get to the actual meat of Carver’s opening post, but there isn’t much to dig into here. He’s a terrible butcher.
Basic Knowledge - Shortest Term Memory
I’ve already shown how that basic knowledge that you get doesn’t help. Sorry. You remember to put up a Shield and then go……”Who am I facing? Oh, right. Vulcan.
Cool. Show me the spell. Because this isn’t telepathy, Carver. MACHINES forget him. He just doesn’t exist to anyone outside himself unless viewed. “I theorize he’s a mutant in a state of constant existential superposition: that is both real and unreal all at once. When he’s observed the quantum state collapses: he’s a perfectly regular guy. But the moment he’s out of sight? The superposition reestablishes and he’s FORGOTTEN. He’s literally written out of the story over and over.”
Hell, in the transition from putting up your shield and the match starting, you’d have already forgotten he existed.
This is super context specific. Doom had come to the team needing help (ulterior motives, obviously) and allowed Rachel to read his mind to show his intent was good. Because of that, when she attacked him later on, he was able to use her brain waves against her. This isn’t the case here. You don’t get the advantage of scanning my brain waves before the match, don’t know I exist, and this scan is basically worthless for what you are trying to accomplish.
No one is controlling you Carver. It’s not a mind game being attacked at you. If it can even happen remotely, if it can happen to camera’s and Shi’ar Psychic Security Systems, then it’s not telepathy.
Rules: Prep: You are given time to raise shields. Otherwise NO prep time.
Clarification: Only traditional shields are allowed during prep (as in repelling external forces). Cloaking, masking, or shielding your presence are NOT allowed during prep.
Cloaking can’t happen in prep. Since I had to go over the freaking rules 54 times last match, I’m pretty sure I memorized it. Guess you go in fully visible as a penalty of not being able to follow the rules.
So, you want to conjure (splitting your attention again Carver? You bold man, you) autonomous constructs?
Carver. Bro. Rules. Read them. They are there to help you decide what’s legal and what’s not.
Banned Powers: Autonomous Constructs (tech or magic).
SPEED BLITZ!! WAIT WHY ARE MY LIMBS GON-AAAHHHH
Didn’t you already “ding, the bell rings” and try a spell that doesn’t exist? So, ding the bell rings and you’re uncloaked, unable to remember exactly why you were trying to do a spell, and decide to blitz my highly visible Vulcan?
Soooo……basically exactly what I thought would happen. Awesome. Thks fr th mmrs.
It’s a good thing I prepped teleporting disks just for that scenario. Come die.
That’s cool bro. I absorbed the entire power supply of your armor. Then turned you dumb. Teleported your limbs off and then cut your magical claymation face off. Oh, and won.
Carver’s one and only post has been about the fact that I split my team up.
He can’t cloak in prep. Whoops.
He has no magic spell capable of helping him remember
Autonomous Constructs (ie: Doombots) are also clearly illegal
Forgetmenot’s abilities are not telepathic in nature
He has no answer to my offensive teleportation, to Vulcan’s strategy, or to the Soul Sword
His entire strategy was, predictably, “SPEED BLITZ” - which was exactly what I planned for. My strategy was tailor made for this. So recap on this recap:
The Ghost Queen directs the flow of combat via teleporting the opponent anytime WD may come close to hitting Vulcan. OFFENSIVELY teleports limbs off.
Vulcan drains any energy/magic Doom may produce
Vulcan stops Wonder Doom’s neurons from firing - making Doom dumb as shit.
The Ghost Queen takes measured assassination attempts with her Soul Sword - particularly effective on an armor and body reliant on magic as a source of power.
Exposing herself for even a moment will only serve to distract Wonder Doom, who will immediately forget the Ghost Queen ever existed, leaving WD helpless to Vulcan
The Gospel of Oblivion
Chapter 4, Verse 20: “Come to the Temple of Lord of the Fire, burn your incense, and bow before it. When the sweet scent reaches to the heavens, I will bless you by bringing Oblivion upon your enemies: rejoice, feast, and be merry for your victory is assured.”
Glad I get this chance to go against you. You and Scoobs are the main reason I joined this...I wanted to gain the opportunity to challenge the both of you. I respect your debating style and I want to have a win against the both of you under my belt, so lets give this a try.
Blair, as stated before, my bots wasnt my main tool in this battle because it isn't needed. You separating your peeps is a downfall on your part. A HUMONGOUS flaw in your tactic and I'll explain why. Ok, like I've told you before, I hold an advantage and I still hold it.
You provided a scan of Magik teleporting "at the speed of thought". Theres so much wrong with that scan that its ridiculous but we have to accept what she said. She dodged an attack and said (judges please read this because its important...read it twice). She said Captain Marvel MAY move at the speed of light. Ok, she's not saying that Captain Marvel IS moving at the speed of light, she is giving us a description of how fast Marvel can go. This does not mean that Cap is moving that fast during that scene, again, she is telling us how fast Marvel could go. The proof that we have that Marvel wasn't going that fast is because Magik countered it with a speed of thought tactic.
So again, lets focus on the speed of thought here since again, that is exactly how fast Magik PARTIALLY teleported (since some of her body was still visible). The speed of thought.
Wonder Woman has moved faster than AMAZO THOUGHT PROCESS.
She blitzed and tied him up before he completed a memory. She blitzed him before he got off one word in his mind. Look at Blair scan see how many words Magik got to say before she teleported half of her body and compare it to the Amazo scan.
Speed of thought though. Magik teleportation is as fast as the speed of thought. Lets use another comparison here.
Wonder Woman moves faster than a heart beat, FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF THOUGHT. Faster than a Dream.
But again, Magik moves as fast as the speed of thought.
LOL... the speed of THOUGHT (which is in Blair scan) is nothing to me and again, NOTHING in that scan TELL US that Captain Marvel was going the speed of light. It states, Marvel MAY GO the speed of light but... Blair gets blitzed and easily just like this White Martian did.
Thats not the impressive part about that scene though. Look real hard at it. Look who is beside Wonder Woman before the blitz. Look who ask where Wonder Woman is at. Flash. Wonder Woman grabbed, carried a White Martian into space before FLASH saw it. Blair is dead. How fast can a White Martian be...
The thing about Blair tactic is, this isn't some type of DBZ fusion dance. He will not start the battle of as one being and then separate into 3. Blair decided to take the approach and separate his people during the onset of the battle. I will see this. There's no hiding this. As soon as the battle start, I will see 3 people in front of me. Theres no way around this. We prep, I look forward within the seconds of prep and I see 3 individuals in front of me that I am thirsty to kill. My tactic remains the same, I blitz during the onset. This does not change. Magik will die because Blair speed ft isn't good enough. It is not good enough. Magik will die. Like I've said before, I can drain the magic clean out of her body as shown in my previous scan and as shown here...
Or like I've shown before in my previous scans of draining. Remember, he moves as fast as the speed of thought which is boo boo. I blitzed AMAZO faster than his thought could process. I can post scans of her blitzing faster than Amazo could move again but whats the point? I am plenty of fast to take out Blair main people. Wait, Vulcan is still there. I kill Magik IMMEDIATELY. That lame speed ft Blair posted wasn't enough and I still have enough time to scoot over and lop Vulcan head off. Vulcan best speed ft is flying through space incredibly fast but when it comes to true speed, he just doesn't have it. Let me guess. You all are thinking, this guy flew real far. Even though he went through portals to get to the Shiar side of the Galaxy, he still had to reach those portals in good time to do this. True, but he is still slow as hell. Why do I say this? This is why.
Vulcan was as good as dead. He did not even see the bullet coming and Gladiator had all day to process said bullet and decide on if he wanted to intercept it. Again, Vulcan did not have the necessary speed to counter this object and was shocked when Gladiator grabbed it. Thats less than street level speed. LOL... Vulcan gets turned to mince meat. Vulcan doesn't have any force field showings that proves he could hold back a full assault from me. I almost forgot. This is the reason why I know Vulcan couldn't withstand a hit from me.
Yes, thats a hit and Vulcan was knocked the hell out after that hit. He was knocked out long enough for Warlock to get away and that was plenty of time... right Blair.
Blair hindered his characters. I started my attack off with a blitz. While I'm blitzing, I see 3 people now. This isn't a fusion dance...3 people are in front of me and I have a killer instinct.
Forget me not isn't powerful enough to tickle me and forget me not powers doesn't work so well against telepathy because Psylocke remembered him (I'm trying so hard to find this scan) due to telepathy AND Shield machines were able to detect him as well and my armor and magic is more powerful than any machine.
Why am I bringing this up? I have an important piece of information that was placed in the rules by my buddy Psycho and here it is...
"Character Knowledge: Contestants are fully aware the characters drafted, including its history, and weaknesses."
This is an important scan here. LOL... Forget me not powers are not an instant process. Lets see how long it takes for it to come into effect per FMN own mouth.
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LOL... Gizmo will forget him in about a min or two. WTF. Yeah, hes dead. I'm not forgetting a thing and by the time that happens, I will be doing a dance routine on Blair forehead that I will never forget about. Let me just add a lil more icing to the cake though.
Forget me not at least wants to be recognized for at least an HOUR.
They had an entire conversation with him for panels AND THEN they forgot about him. He even had time to sit alone and think before this happened. I can keep going with this but I'm not. I can post a kid having a conversation with him throughout an entire comic but I've proven my point. With my scanners...
I don’t even understand my own debating style, but I’m glad we could entice you to join us. Here’s hoping I can win as well. Good luck!
You really like your Dragon Ball Z, don’t you? No one said anything about doing a fusion dance or anything of the sort in prep. It’s an amalgam battle Carver, and you can choose who you want to amalgam or not. I’ve shown you the rules of this tournament and told you that there’s precedent for it being done before. I know for a fact at least one other contestant of us four considered the idea - and they didn’t breathe a word about it being against the rules. You not liking it doesn’t make it so.
I think we all realize that you’re scared and grasping at straws to be able to defeat me more easily, but I’d have more respect for you if you just accepted the basics of the battle and fought from that position than trying to hinder the battle itself. Choosing to exclude Vulcan from the amalgam is within my right - and the rules don’t say otherwise.
Unlike you coming in uncloaked and without bots, as both are explicitly outlawed by the rules of the tournament. You also didn’t start with a blitz. You did two magical spells - one unproven and the other illegal. Don’t recon what you posted.
Good, making progress, accepting the inevitable.
Carver, the Flash was busy dealing with another Martian with Green Lantern. That wasn’t a speed feet. Wonder Woman is fast. You’ve shown a bunch of scans of her speed - it seems to be your one great trump card. But are you seriously trying to sell me on the idea that she can cross to me before I teleport or easier yet, react with a portal directly in front of her? Silly little man, do you think you can catch me when Mjolnir AT CLOSE RANGE couldn’t?
But since offensive teleportation is on the table and you’ve yet to touch on it, how exactly would a quadraplegic Wonder Doom fair? In case you’ve forgotten, she can do exactly that. http://postimg.org/image/3wsfcknbr
An off panel feat for Doom? How long did it take? Did he have to lay hands on her? Could he do it at a distance? How much prep did he need to do it? Too many questions Carve, for a power that won’t work on someone Wonder Doom doesn’t even remember exists (and yes, don’t worry, I’ll get to ForgetMeNot in a bit) - however, you know who has drained someone of all their magical energy, on panel, and did it in seconds, against a high level foe who’s been known to bust entire teams? Vulcan to Adam Warlock. You seem really scared of my Magik/Forgetmenot combo, but you forget that Vulcan can suck the energy right out of your armor, your shields, and your brain (all of which are simply energy + magic). You can’t win this Carver.
A “nonspeed” low feat from when Vulcan wasn’t even in the fray himself and wasn’t expecting anything? Hardly the same as being present in the battle itself - AND HE’S MY BAIT. Listen, Vulcan can stop you in his tracks BY HIMSELF (tell me again what that armor runs on? Energy + Magic. What does Vulcan absorb? ALL OF IT). Vulcan being the bait, with a full forcefield around him gives him time. You’re not just going to blow past the forcefield like a thin sheet of paper, no matter what you want everyone to believe.
Uh. Carver. How hard exactly? Because…..I gave you that scan. It’s in my opening post. Are you even reading through the match? Hell, here it is, just in case you can’t find it again:
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Are you going to mediate and check out your memory files Carver? This wasn’t instantaneous
No denying you get a sit rep. I’m saying it won’t matter, because after you do, you’ll forget all that information. The same exact scenario happened on panel - you can’t refute that.
The Shiar psychic defense forcefield is grappling him Carver. Are you grappling me, kept in constant focus of my attention? Let's see, on panel, and not using hearsay in words, to determine how fast people forget him:
Hmm, This happened when she literally did nothing more than turn her head:
Man. Looks like on panel proof that everyone forgets is pretty damn strong Carver. Not only that, but it’s hard to even look at him. Remember he messes with: visual aim, weapon telemetry,camera’s, psychics, psychic devices, etc http://i63.tinypic.com/35anac0.jpg
Xavier had to set up a subconscious reminder that FMN even existed, and Psyclocke DIDN’T remember him, she simply noticed memory blanks - which led to the theory that a mutant had done it. You don’t get the luxury of all that. After prep, in which you can’t do anything but shield yourself (traditionally), you forget everything.
It’s really too bad for you that you need to be in line of sight and directly viewing him for you to even notice he exists. With Magik’s teleporting (myself and you) you won’t even know which way is up, much less where I am.
You’ve said literally nothing else about my strategy. Speed won’t save you here my friend. My last recap still stands. He hasn’t countered any of it: teleportation, offensive teleportation, energy drain and lobotomy, or the soul sword (which we should all remember, a single touch would cut off all of Doom's magic - and if it touches Wonder Woman's skin, she turns into clay!)
The Gospel of Oblivion
Chapter 7, Verse 89: And now I lay your head down to rest, on the end of the sword help high in the sky. My will be done, as your body withers away in hell.”
Really Blair... Really. Where to start? Where to start?
Alright, lets start with Magik. Those speed fts still doesn't prove anything and yes, I can make it to you in no time at all. I CAN go light speed and I will prove that in a few. Anyways, you post a scan of Magik teleporting before Mjlonir got to her. Prove how fast Mjlonir was going when that happened. She was able to get a word off before Mjlonir even got close to her. The beauty of this is, Hulk was able to dodge the same kind of attack from a Thor that was raged out.
And like I've posted before, she blitzed Amazo before he got the chance to get out a thought.
Lets continue with Magik. You previously brought up the soul sword. Saying that was an attack you were going to use right off the bat and honestly, that is one of Magiks main offensive power. Too bad Doom has not only encountered the soul sword, lol, he resisted its power...
I can redirect your teleportation to a direction of my choosing. You're not safe from me Blair. Your powers and your main tactic is flawed and I have the speed to do as I please to ensure I get the win against you.
Also, Blair kinda lied during this match. He said that he will infect my armor/mind and showed a scan where Doom mind was tampered with when fighting the Hulk. The ONLY reason that happened was due to Doom absorbing power from a poisoned Cosmic Hulk.
This was prepped by some of the powerful minds on the planet. Unless Blair plans on poisoning himself, I see no way possible with him messing with my mind. Its not happening.
What have I proven with my post about Magik? He is still too slow to counter my blitz because a showing doesn't exist proven he could react before I took him out. I've proven that Magik teleportation is flawed here since I can counter it and have her teleport in any direction I want.Her soul sword has been resisted by me. I've dealt with the power. My armor has tasted it and again, my armor learns and adapts.
Do I need to keep going Blair. Post the entire sequence, not part of it. By the time I decide to even get the thought of forgetting you, you'll be dead. Your power isn't instantly, it takes time, even in the scans you've shown. I've prove in my previous post that it take a bit for his power to come into effect.
LOL... now lets move to Vulcan. The bullet was right in front of his face. It wasn't a small bullet either. Anyone with any noticeable speed couldve dodged or caught that bullet let along saw it. Let me not post street levelers dodging similar attacks. The bullet was in front of him, he just couldn't perceive it just like he will not perceive me while I'm killing Magik/Forget me not. I would love for you to post some speed fts of Vulcan that proves he could react to Wonder Woman. Let me post one for you.
Look at how he dodged that attack. I can keep going with this. Vulcan does not have the speed to react to someone like WonderDoom. It aint happening.
Also, you're talking about messing with my energy. Prove it. Provide a scan of Vulcan absorbing magic through a shield. The ONLY reason he was able to mess with Warlock power was due to Warlock using it offensively. I have knowledge of you. The smartest man on the planet. I'm not dumb enough to feed you power like Warlock was...
As shown, Warlock was literally feeding him power. I will not give him that Luxury and I sure as hell need proof that he can mess with my energy through my shield. My shield is tailored made to keep power out.
I'll wait for that scan showing Vulcan powers working through forcefields, then I need you to prove that it would work against a force field like Doom. THEN I need you to prove that it'll get through armor as advanced as Dooms.
So lets do a recap. I blitz to Magik going Faster than the speed of light. Blair has not proven he can react to such an attack. I take her out before she got a thought. Dodging Mjlnor isn't proof that he can dodge someone as fast as me. He tries to rely on FMN but that power as stated and shown isn't fast enough to activate. Magik is gone. Her powers are pointless. The soul sword and as shown, her teleportation can be used against her (and its nothing like Nightcrawlers teleportation where the entire body disappears, during mid teleportation, he body is still visible which gives me more than enough time to redirect her teleportation. Dont need to rely on that though since Magik will be dead as soon as the bell ring).
Vulcan doesn't have the durability to withstand my physical might and he sure as hell doesn't have any way of getting through my shield and armor. I absorb Vulcan shields and pound on it until its gone (please provide scans proving that Vulcan can withstand attacks from Wonder Doom). His shields get absorbed and Vulcan gets beat to sleep with utter ease.
Carver, you’re aware that you don’t start next to me, yes? You start quite a distance away. If this was a sumo match and you started directly next to me, you may have had a great tactic by speed blitzing. You don’t. It isn’t.
Okay. Great speed feat. Was she able to go from 0 to SPEED FORCE in an instant? Because that’s the leap you’re asking all of us to believe. Even Flash can’t do that. You’re fast Carver, no one is denying that. You’re character just isn’t fast enough to cross the distance between us before I
Teleport my team
Put a teleport portal in front of you
Teleport your limbs off
Drain the energy from your armor + brain
Pick one. I plan to do them all, but all I need is 1 to happen (and I could argue 2 of them happening at once since Magik would handle teleport and Vulcan draining energy) and your entire strategy goes out the window as you succumb to me and mine.
Magik (Soul Sword and Teleportation)
Oh Carver. . Okay - so the Soul Sword, right? Whoever is in possession of the Soul Sword gets three things: Rulership of Limbo, Magical Armor, and the most badass magic cutting weapon in the Marvel (and I guess DC) universe. During that specific comic, Doom had the soul sword, which he stole from Shadowcat (who he needed because he couldn’t circumvent the magical spell that kept the sword stuck in stone - and she was the only one who could because Magik said so). He wanted it because he wanted to take over Limbo so he could mine the magical metal because it’s awesomesauce. But that scan is like Doom, with a green lantern ring, saying “Hey, everyone knows that a Green Lantern ring gives you a forcefield - but via my will I decided not to use it.”
Not even close to the same thing as me swiping you with the blade and cutting all your magic. There isn’t a defense for that.
That would be neat - except Voodoo is limited to Voodoo magic and uses an Evanodor Compatriot Boost Spell for teleportation and the only other person I’ve seen Doom do that too is Nightcrawler (who teleports via the EM spectrum). Magik, for all her life, had teleport portals that ran through Limbo and out where she wanted them. Now that Limbo is inside of her, I very much doubt you’ll be able to redirect anything. You’d have to counter my teleport portals (which I can create both ends of before I even step through).
Plus, you don’t remember I exist. So….sorry?
Also, how many things do you expect Doom to be able to do in quick succession? I haven’t changed my strategy once. You’ve added new things for Doom to try in every single post.
Carver just doesn't understand the finer points of the tactic, and for that, I am sorrowful.
Doom is a man, who utilizes armor run on energy. An impressive man, yes, but underneath his magic, tech, forcefields etc, he is still a baseline human. Take that away, and his armor is nigh useless - the point of the scan was to show it had no automated defenses against this tactic. He has incredible forcefields, yes, but Vulcan can drain them easily just like he did here to Eldest
Note how easily he just drains a being with an entire race supporting him. He’s drained power cells from Sentinels and Shiar space ships. And you post a scan of Doom’s EM based forcefield as, what, proof of something? He isn’t magneto - energy just makes Vulcan stronger.
In fact, I think Carver had a few words on the subject of Vulcan and energy (vs Dr. Strange of all people) that I’d like share with the class:
“His control of energy doesn’t have an equal. Can’t see Strange winning this” - Carver. Guess that settles it, right? So Doom's shields would be nothing. His armor? Nothing. WW? You guessed it, nothing. We can breeze through, stop the energy flow in his brain, and Wonder Doom would be a drooling vegetable, completely unaware of The Ghost Queen and the sword she’s going to decapitate him with.
FORGET ME NOT
Have you read any of the scans I’ve been posting? He’s directly talking to her and she’s looking at him. He stated it was taking effort to keep her remembering him, and she never broke contact. The one time she did, looking away for a split second, she completely forgot about him. How is this hard to comprehend? You don’t get that luxury. I’m going to be hidden, teleporting, and generally out of your sight. You wouldn’t remember I exist, you’d be brain dead, you’d get cut to pieces, AND you’d have your limbs teleported off.
That’s pretty much your entire strategy. I have a two pronged approach especially made for you. My last recap still stands. You’ve changed your strategy AFTER the initial blitz so many times I don’t even know if Wonder Doom knows what he’s supposed to have been doing. You’ve yet to counter offensive teleportation, you’ve yet to show that the soul sword can’t cut you, we have on panel proof that Doom needs his mind for magic + armor, you’ve admitted that there is no one Vulcan’s level when it comes to energy manipulation....sorry. Just don't think you can overcome this by punching your way out.
The Gospel of Oblivion
Chapter 1, Verse 7: “'If your heart beats like a drum and your leg's a little wet, it's 'cause the Reaper's come to collect a little debt.'”
My last post Blair. This was fun and enjoyable. I want to start in a spot that I didn't start at in my previous post.
No matter how you put it Blair, Doom resisted the power of the soul sword. Here's the most important part of that scan... Doom has tasted the power of the soul sword and per Dooms adaptive system that is built into his armor, I feel 100% confident that his armor will resist its power. LOL... you've admitted this as well. Here are your words on Dooms potential at resisting abilities once tasting it "Doom had come to the team needing help (ulterior motives, obviously) and allowed Rachel to read his mind to show his intent was good. Because of that, when she attacked him later on, he was able to use her brain waves against her".
We know once Doom taste the power of something, he has something in place to resist said power. He shows it again here.
Also, lol, you are not hitting me with that sword, even though I'm sure I will resist its power like I've already proven. Let me explain why you will not hit me with that sword. You will not hit me because of my bracers and my reaction speed. You hitting me is like Wolverine tagging a high end Flash. It aint happening. Let me show you why.
Your magic is powerful but I was able to block magic from Nekron himself.
Who is her muscle reaction being compared too? Supermans. I HIGHLY doubt Blair arm muscle speed (lol, he hasn't even shown any speed fts relevant for this thread, let alone being able to tag me with a sword that he will not get the chance to use) is fast enough to him me.
Alright, Blair said that I'm not fast enough to make it to him... to cover that small distance between the both of us. Wonder Woman has some of the best short speed burst showings in comics. So with my next scan, I will show you all her short burst of speed (since I've already shown you her long distance flight... catching up with speed force users and carrying a White Martian into space faster than Flash could see).
Lets use her fight against Amazo again.
I am going to provide a set of scans and list scenes from these scans proving my case. This is her fight against Amazo. The scans that I am referencing is in one link so I'll explain which part I am talking about.
As shown above, like I've stated, this is her fight against Amazo. As shown on the 3rd page of the scan, she was able to tie Amazo up and blitz him before he went intangible. 4th page, she gives us a description of how fast Amazo is by telling us that he is faster than Clark. 7th page her and Amazo was standing face to face.She was able to fly through the roof, come back down through the roof and blitz Amazo through the bottom part of the roof before he got the chance to react.
After deflecting the Shattergod shards, she immediately out pace them.
I know I've shown this before but I just want to add more to it. Wonder Woman cross distance to tie up Amazo arm before he got off a full thought and in the same scan it was mentioned that Amazo is as fast as Flash.
She blitz off and change into a completely different outfit, does her hair, put on shades get rid of her Wonder Woman gear and move to an entirely different section in the span of a second. No one even see her move (lol, your slow reactions will not see me move).
Happens again here. She is sitting down talking and hear someone screaming help. She gets up, take off her shades, does her hair, get out of her clothing, fly over to the area where the person was screaming help and deflects a bullet.
So what did I establish here? Wonder Woman quick burst of speed is legendary. To the point that she can blitz Flash like characters and intercept heat vision and bullets.
What else did I establish? Her long distance flight is legendary to the point that she can enter the speed force under her own power/speed... blitz a White Martian into space in no time at all. What do I need Blair to prove since I've proven Wonder Woman quick burst and long distance speed does not change. I need Blair to prove that she somehow gets slower between her start off speed (which I've shown is elite) and the speed I will have by the time I've covered this short distance to take Blair out. I feel safe at saying I will make it to Blair in no time at all. What do you all think?
Also, I've proven that I can hinder teleportation and I can as I've shown with VooDoo and Nightcrawler. Your teleportation is hindered here (even though you will not get the chance to use it). The only thing I need to do is provide proof that I can do something and I've shown that with scans buddy. Your teleportation is under my control. Thats IF you get the chance to use it and I highly doubt you will.
Also, why do you keep mentioning messing with my mind? You're not doing anything to my skull Blair with Vulcan let alone messing with my perception with Forget me Not. You provided a false scan of Doom absorbing Cosmic energy from Cosmic Hulk which was prepped by Leader and the gang which messed with Doom mind. You're misleading the judges. Doom have to many showings going against him being manipulated...liiiikkkeee...
LOL... my Will has allowed me to resist Purple Man powers, AT CLOSE RANGE.
LOL... and Blair brings up draining my forcefield and used the elder God showing as proof of this. LOL... thats not proof that you can absorb Dooms sophisticated shieldings. My shield has withstood the power of Celestials and far more powerful forces than you and again, its not a normal shield. You need to provide proof that Vulcan can get through someone like Doom shielding. LOL... and are you really trying to go into a draining battle against someone who is quicker on the draw and against someone who has the best draining power showing in comics from draining Franklin, to Galactus, all the way to the Beyonder. That is a losing battle for you. You even attempting to take this route would get you killed. I have proof that I can drain you dry (no homo)... you draining an elder is crap compared to what I can do to you either from a distance draining wise, or close up. You can choose.
Also, Blair using my statement of Vulcan beating Strange is irrelevant because for one, opinions change and two, Strange with help RAN from Doom.
What else did we get from these scans. We see that Doom can track opponents from across the globe and the most important, Doom armor adapting to attacks used against it. I'm not afraid of you Blair. If anything, my character will chew you and your attempts up and spit it out.
I want to discuss more about the force Field Blair is trying to absorb. As shown above, it withstood the power of Celestial might. Hell, it even withstood the power of Beyonder...
As shown, Beyonder power koed Galactus but Doom is up and moving due to the power of his shield. As stated, Blair need some hard evidence proving he can absorb my shielding, let alone attack me through it. Nightcrawlers power failed to get in, Magneto powers failed, Beyonder, Kitty phasing, the Infinite Gauntlet...
As for Forget me Not. As explained earlier Doom has blockers against that and I'm sure Diana being a god and being able to see with the eyes of a God and understanding with God wisdom, that ability will not work on my character.
So again my tactic is, attack Blair at unbelievable speeds. Speeds that he has no countered yet. None of his scans prove this. Not one. I blitz him with with quick reflexes. Arms moving in a blur with multiples of attacks and as shown Wonder Woman reflexes are legendary. I will find weak spots in Magik right off the bat due to my lasso showing me where to strike...
I kill Magik as soon as the bell ring. I then move over to Vulcan (who is right beside Magik), drain his force field and hit him with a death blow. As shown, Vulcan can not take a hit. Warlock koed him by throwing a canister at him and I need to see something from Blair proving Vulcan can survive an assault from Wonder Woman punching him at untold amounts of time with elite strength.
You all have to remember, as shown in my scans, Forget me not powers isn't instantly activated, it takes time and i have proven that. Time is a huge factor for Blair because in a fight against me, he needs all of the time in the world to even out the fight because I am going to start this fight off moving at my top speed from the beginning to the end. Forget me not powers not being active during the onset of the battle is a hinderance against his potential and honestly, it wouldn't even work due to Doom's armor that has adaptive capabilities, even when attacks are being used against it (and at the end of the day Forget me not power is an attack) and Doom and Wonder Woman senses.
Magik is powerful but she doesn't have the speed to hit me or the power to get past my bracers. The crazy thing is, I dont even have to think about blocking Blair attacks, its automatic. Lets not forget that he will not get an attack off though. I have also proven that I can control his teleportation ability without him even knowing it.
Blair trump cards are to teleport which is hindered by my speed since I will make it to him before he got the chance to do that.
Use Vulcan to drain my shielding and power which again is hindered due to my speed (and killing off Magik as quick as possible) and Vulcan failing at going into an absorption battle against the best absorber in comics.
Attacking my mind like the scan he brought up with Banner but failed to mention that Doom absorbed an infected Cosmic Hulk power which infected his mind. Unless Blair plans on poisoning himself, that tactic is a fail as well because 1. he needs to prove that he can get past my advanced shielding..2, he needs to prove that he can get past my adaptive armor, and 3). my most powerful weapon, my will power. He needs to prove that he can get past that as well. Lets not forget about Diana protective aura that follows her and prevent things from happening...
I am highly protected from Blair and his offensive attacks. His defense will fall to my power. He just isn't strong or powerful enough. I am his Freddy Krueger. I have countered all of his attacks. I hope you all enjoyed. I had a good time doing all of this. Thanks again Blair for the opportunity.
But, he resisted nothing. He chose to not have an upgrade the weapon provides: a magical armor that allows for CL100 defense and the ability to store all energy.
So, a magical weapon that cuts all magic, that has cut demon lords in their own dimensions, that has killed the entire collection of magic given sentience, and cleansed an entire dimension of evil magic, is somehow going to be blocked by a guy in a magical body, with magical bracers, with magical armor? Pfft. It’s a matter of tactics - I have the antithesis of magic in my hands. You won’t be able to magically “block” that which cuts/destroys all things magical.
And brainwaves are not the magical negation of magic. In the Marvel universe, psionics run along the EM spectrum. That weapon, an EM based manipulation used against a telepath, proves absolutely zero about you being able to negate the Soul Sword.
What? He predicted a war against Dracula, prepped for him, and that somehow correlates to this? Common Carver, bring actual arguments to this battle.
Wonder Woman - Bracers and Speed
Except this Wolverine has teleportation and you don’t remember I exist. You fly in straight lines - I can attack at any angle imaginable. You are focused on Vulcan - I can take you out from behind, above, below, the side. It’s a stealth assassination with a magical weapon essentially designed to kill you - a magical artifact made of clay with magical items
That’s wonderful. I’ve always known the bracers were tough stuff - except that every scan you showed (and every scan you’d be able to find on the subject) all show her bracers blocking a force based attack. This is not the same thing. The Soul Sword is meant to cut, negate, and destroy any and all magical items, creatures, ghosts, etc.
Just a recap of some of the Soul Swords’s greatest hits:
She’s killed Dormammu
Threatened a terrified (of the SoulSword) Mephisto in his own realm
She cleaved through the gigantic Demon Bear (X-Men psychic/supernatural team wrecker) in the Badlands, his own dimension.
Cut the Crimson Bands of Cyttorrak (magic spell made others gain magic abilities)
Severed the connection of Cyttorrak to Colossus
Delivered the killing blow on Archenemy - the sentient collection of all the magic in the universe
Hell, it cleansed the entire dimension of Limbo from Belasco’s evil magic: (please log in to view the image)
Now, the bracelets are magic - there isn’t any question about that. The basics dictate that “magical weapon designed to block all force” should still be destroyed by “magical weapon designed to negate all magic”.
Either way, they only cover a portion of her wrists. Considering the stealth nature of The Ghost Queen and the fact that Wonder Woman is MAGICAL CLAY (especially the pre-52 version you are using), one swipe at her would return her to what she once was: clay
Carver meet Ghost Queen. Silent. Deadly. Forgettable. Able to strike from any direction - and your character won’t be expecting the attack.
I don’t care how fast you think you are. Vulcan, as the “bait” - who could honestly take care of you himself - is the only thing you’ll be focused on. You won’t be expecting the killing thrust given by the Soul Sword by a character you didn’t even remember was a part of the battle.
The only two examples you’ve shown are Voodoo and Nightcrawler - both who teleport themselves. Magik uses portals, connected to Limbo, of which Magik is Lord Ruler. You mean to tell me that you can override the control of the Goddess of Limbo, with Limbo inside of her, on a type of teleportation that is not the same as what Voodoo or Nightcrawler do (Voodoo magic or EM spectrum teleportation?). Pffft.
On the subject of teleportation though, you’ve never, not once, addressed offensive teleportation. It’s legal per the tournament, it’s also been okay’d by Gundam. I think you never responded because you honestly have no answer for it. I think it scared you. I mean, what happens when you have no limbs, no bracers or fists to punch with? No legs to kick with?
Teleportation that can tear off the limbs of Magus of the Technarchy, he who casually rips apart stars, means you’re going to be limbless as well. Good luck punching your way through anything.
Vulcan Mind Phuck + SHIELDS?
*Sigh*. Carver. Lets look at the facts -
1. Vulcan can mess with the neurons inside Doom's brain, as I showed with D'Ken and Rachel. He stopped Rachel from using her powers and woke D’Ken up from a coma in the same basic manner I am going to manipulate you.
2. Now, lets remember that I’m dealing with the physical brain here, so the scans of magic telepathy or Purple Man are irrelevant. The “false” scan - why is it false, because you don’t like it? - shows us that his armor has NO defensive systems without him. They all require Doom's brilliant mind to work. He can’t cast magic. He can’t do anything at all. To remind everyone: http://postimg.org/image/6zm8drs43/
Carver can post as many scans as he wants of Doom's shields resisting Celestials/Beyonder. All that means is that Dooms is surrounded by a bubble of energy. Which Vulcan can easily drain.
Carver has posted no scans of Doom resisting draining of his shields. Vulcan isn’t trying to bust through Doom’s shields - I’m feeding on them. The more powerful they are, the more there is to amp Vulcan.
And his resources can run dry - as shown with the Iron Man fight I posted in my opening. And it isn’t like Wonder Woman provides any kind of defense to this. In fact, she’s a liability as has been shown over and over again, she has a weakness to energy based manipulation: http://postimg.org/image/m727y4jyr/
And graciously shown again by Carver himself: http://postimg.org/image/ogld4pvzr/
She can’t move her muscles.
You don’t have a defense for this method of attack. Hell, you don’t have a defense in place for any of my methods of attack.
The Gospel of Oblivion
Chapter 19, Verse 11-13: “My disciple, do not fight fire with fire. Fight fire with water, for more surely will you negate its power. The same can be said of all things: find the weaknesses your opponent exhibits and exploit them. Without mercy. Without fail. Show them Oblivion.”
…...Carver, you have the single greatest inability to learn new information based on on-panel documentation I’ve ever experienced. It’s not telepathy. It’s not an illusion. Go read the Dr. Nemesis explanation. I’ve given you the same scan at least twice - and once handed it to you after you said you were desperately looking for same said scan. His power isn’t something you’ve encountered before.
I don’t know Carver, I swear you don’t read any of the scans I post up. Maybe that’s why you respond so fast. Every FMN time is shown, the power is instant as soon as they look away. And when they do look at him? Well, your armor guidance system and sensory apparatus is useless:
But let us note that, Strange is not the be all/end all. Magik has defeated him, in limbo (which again, she currently has residing inside of her).
Except, you know, he was only able to track one person do to a linked magic ritual and the defensive systems in his suit are powered by his mind - something Banner made abundantly clear.
Final Thoughts: Recap
Wonder Doom and Carver’s strategy
Carver’s entire strategy: “So again my tactic is, attack Blair at unbelievable speeds.”
Wonder Woman is fast. Sure, we can all agree to that. But in every instance of her using her speed that Carver has brought up, it’s been short distances. The longest was yelling distance across a park. None of them cover the distance we start off with in the tournament setting: .5 kilometers. it’s essentially 5.468066491688539 football fields. All before I do one teleport portal? Fat chance. Not only that, but I think Carver completely forgot that I have on my Eldritch armor capable of taking cl100 punches. Or that I can teleport his limbs off. Or that Vulcan exists with shields up. Or that he’d have to fight off two powerful attackers. Or that half the shit he tried pulling was illegal. Or that scans are meant to be read. Or that forget me not’s powers are not telepathic or illusions. Or that speed is not everything. Or that…..you get the point.
Honestly it’s almost as if he wants to just distract you with how fast he is.
God of Fire + Ghost Queen: Combo to KO to FINISHER
My strategy stands. I haven’t used this opportunity to scan blitz, because I think my opening post stands strong. Every scan there is important and relevant: I’d rather you go revisit them than have to slog through another set of scans.
My opening statements have not changed, unlike Carver who’s tried a new strategy (on top of his only constant: speed), every post. Just remember that both sets of attacks (Vulcan + The Ghost Queen) will be happening simultaneously. Against one character who’s only focused on one of them.
Vulcan throws up a forcefield during the prep stage.
The Ghost Queen armors up with her Eldrich armor and instantly teleports them both out onto different sections of the battlefield: Vulcan out in the open with his forcefield, a bright beacon to would be attackers. The Ghost Queen stays hidden low to the ground.
The Ghost Queen directs the flow of combat via teleporting the opponent anytime WD may come close to hitting Vulcan. OFFENSIVELY teleports limbs off while doing this. Considering his ENTIRE strategy is “I punch real good”, this kind of takes the kick out of anything he may try.
AT THE SAME TIME, Vulcan drains any energy/magic Doom’s armor may produce. Hell it would power him up and shut down his armor.
Vulcan stops Wonder Doom’s neurons from firing - making Doom dumb as shit. And his armors defensive systems need his control. His magic needs his words.
The Ghost Queen takes measured assassination attempts with her Soul Sword - particularly effective on an armor and body reliant on magic as a source of power.
Exposing herself for even a moment will only serve to distract Wonder Doom, who will immediately forget the Ghost Queen ever existed, leaving WD helpless to Vulcan
Limbless. Unable to think. Struck through the heart by a magical sword that destroys magic. The great Wonder Doom, dead.
As Carver would put it: I’d have him running like a trick
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The Gospel of Oblivion
Chapter 28, Verse 45: “In the end, Oblivion comes for all. But worry not, for Death is but the resting place for weary souls. Come, accept the inevitable: your death was fate from the moment you were born. And thus, it is finished.”