It's no rape tbh. Anakin is bottom of tier 9 and Maul, the top of tier 8. Anakin's victories come through massive strength advantage; Dooku, Ventress etc. a category Anakin isn't stomping in. I'll no doubt get roasted but I believe Bloodlusted Maul = Anakin
Maul still loses tho
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Last edited by chingchangwalla on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 10:43 AM
Maul is above Kenobi, circumstantial or not he could've killed him with force choke upwards of 3-4 times :/
Plot armour > Maul
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Last edited by chingchangwalla on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 10:46 AM
RotS Anakin's better skilfully, physically, and in the Force. He's on another level as a lightsaber combatant and another league as a Force wielder. This is a very decisive win for him.
I'm interested on your take of the ROTS Dooku vs Anakin fight Sunrazor. Are you a 'Dooku would've won if he wasn't holding back and Anakin wasn't pissed off' person or do you see it as Anakin just smashing the **** out Dooku?
__________________ ''It is necessary that I should die for my people; but my spirit will rise from the grave and the world will know that I was right." The Almighty Führer
There's no top or bottom's of Gillard's Tier 9. He specifically notes that when you get to that tier the fights can just go either way.
Dooku's top of tier 8. Maul = Kenobi in Sabers (But perhaps he's Dooku's equal by Rebels).
Anakin has a strength advantage over all the tier 8's. If Kenobi hadn't trained him, and Ani wasn't emotionally compromised then that fight would have been a lot more one sided.
What about a bloodlusted Anakin Lol. Whatever way you put it Maul loses this one. That's not a diss against Maul, because Dooku couldn't fair any better. And Kenobi shouldn't really fair any better either.
I. do. not. give. a. shit. about. Gillard's. tiering. system. FOR **** SAKE
__________________ ''It is necessary that I should die for my people; but my spirit will rise from the grave and the world will know that I was right." The Almighty Führer
I'm talking about my tiering system just my opinion
__________________ ''It is necessary that I should die for my people; but my spirit will rise from the grave and the world will know that I was right." The Almighty Führer
I kinda have to be arguing Maul > Anakin because I'm a believer of Vader > Anakin.
I'm workin on a little piece of why Season 3 Maul could possibly be > Vader (completely disregarding plot and Filoni's f.uckery)
__________________ ''It is necessary that I should die for my people; but my spirit will rise from the grave and the world will know that I was right." The Almighty Führer
Dooku wasn't holding back to begin with, not in the later portions of the fight anyway. The RotS novel just has Anakin curbing him - not in skill, but in everything else. Other sources have them as about equal until Anakin taps into his anger.
__________________ ''It is necessary that I should die for my people; but my spirit will rise from the grave and the world will know that I was right." The Almighty Führer
__________________ ''It is necessary that I should die for my people; but my spirit will rise from the grave and the world will know that I was right." The Almighty Führer
Not sure about Dooku's tier. According to Gillard, he fought evenly two agressive fighters (yep, in Gillard's mind, Kenobi was "agressive"). Until Anakin got his rage amp and became 9, Dooku was somehow superior on the screen. And he did well against Yoda.
That's why I said top of tier 8. Gillard said there was a huge jump from 8 to 9 which means there's lots of room in the middle.
And Dooku can't be Gillard's tier 9, because Gillard made it clear Tier 9 fights can go either way. But clearly Yoda vs Dooku was a fight which Dooku couldn't possibly win.
Also DarthAnt says Gillard replied to his email and confirmed both Dooku and Maul were 8's.
Are you kidding? Ant said, that Gillard said... far from believable argument.
On the other hand, might be true, since Dooku was quickly overhelmed by enraged Anakin.
Anyway, what I was trying to say, is that Gillard's levels are pointless, since Kenobi isn't "agressive" fighter, and Anakin - even enraged - isn't Sidious' or Yoda's equal. It was clearly suggested in Yoda's visioin - Anakin was able to beat Count Dooku in a similar way he did in ROTS, but still he was a non-factor as Yoda's backup against Sidious.
More then that, it seems, that Mace isn't the same as he was arround 2005th. Unlike Yoda or Sidious.
Aug 22nd, 2016 10:35 AM
just my opinion
