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Bashar Teg
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i'm happy that GL canon doesn't matter anymore. the more he attempted to clarified things, the more confusing it became.


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Zenwolf
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Lucas's vision was always separate and independent to Legends. It's still Lucas's commentary on the "Canon" Episodes 1-6. Also you can bet the sale contract for Star Wars was one big ass document about what they can and can't do.

For example, it's the edited version of the films which are canon. Disney can't change it back to the original versions.




It was Lucas who brought Maul back. Try to listen please.


Right, but Legends still had to work with that vision.

So Maul in Legends is dead.

Canon he's alive. So it's just a retcon.


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JediRobin23
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It was Lucas who brought Maul back. Try to listen please.


I heard you....

I've asked you for a reference to where that's coming from, in which you did not provide.

Try to listen, please

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Canon he's alive. So it's just a retcon.



Yeah but Lucas was the one who said he was dead. The Lucas was the one who retconned that. That's my point. And that His words and interpretation of the Saga will never simply be thrown out of the window.


Hence [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Kyber crystals powering the Death Star in Rogue One.

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JediRobin23
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Here's the original interview with Lucas

http://www.empireonline.com/movies/...1999-interview/

Lucas part

"At one point, when Obi-Wan kills Darth Maul, he just fell in the pit. I looked at it and thought this isn't going to work because, if people like him enough, they're going to want him to come back and they're going to assume somehow he gets out of it. So I had to cut him in half to say that this guy's gone, he's history, he ain't coming back. I'll come up with another apprentice. The whole issue of having apprentices, poor Darth Sidious trying to replenish his apprentice supply, is one of the main plot points."


Lucas should have cut him in pieces, so Maul would definitely not come back....

Fan's probably put pressure on Lucas to approve Filoni's work by using Maul.....

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Rebel95
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I like that they brought him back, but I don't like how they've changed his character. He was so badass and mysterious in TPM, now he's just a failure with a lot of bad showings.

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Yet you're glad that they brought him back? Hmm...anyway me thinks this is treading off topic here.


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Fan's probably put pressure on Lucas to approve Filoni's work by using Maul.....




No, it was Lucas who wanted to bring him back.

He simply changed his mind about Maul returning after the Prequels were finished. The point of him being cut in half was so no one gets their hopes up about him returning in the next two films. But with the animation they have many episodes to flesh out his return.



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I like that they brought him back, but I don't like how they've changed his character. He was so badass and mysterious in TPM, now he's just a failure with a lot of bad showings.




Well that was the issue with bringing him back was that he HAD TO Continue Losing.

Because we Know Palpatine doesn't take him back as an apprentice, and we Know he's not going to overthrow Palpatine either, nor are there any other Sith Lords even in the picture later on. And we Know he's not going to get his revenge by killing Obi-Wan.

As for his Return though, I really like what Witwer brought to his character, and how they fleshed Maul out.

Now keeping him around for Rebels was probably a mistake as all he can do is continue to lose.

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I like that they brought him back, but I don't like how they've changed his character. He was so badass and mysterious in TPM, now he's just a failure with a lot of bad showings.
No, he isn't and secondly this is just your opinion. Maul has had fantastic showings since his rebirth so please stop with the nonsense.


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No, he isn't and secondly this is just your opinion.
No shit, dumbass.


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JediRobin23
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No, it was Lucas who wanted to bring him back.


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He simply changed his mind


Yup, that's Lucas for ya... changing his mind... like ALL the time.


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Yup, that's Lucas for ya... changing his mind... like ALL the time.


And Disney won't?...

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No Lucas was evil. Disney is Angelic. Get with the program.

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JediRobin23
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You mean the white slaver program?.....

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No shit, dumbass.

Lol

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You mean the white slaver program?.....




Evil Lucas can make all the lies and false accusations he wants. Fact is the only White Disney is, is Angelic White. They can do no wrong.

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And Disney won't?...


Maybe. We need to wait and see.


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No shit, dumbass.
He is wrong and has since evacuated his position, emotional guy.


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RICH emotional guy.


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