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Void/Sentry vs Darkseid...
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Which Darkseid does he beat, IYO?


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You are not the one whom will explain everything to me.

You don't know anything about Owen Reece, nor about Sentry.

Owen's mental stability doesn't matter.
The only thing that affect his powers is his beliefs on them.

I will repost the scan from Dark Reign Files that literally counter again your ridiculous attempt at making you appear knowledgeable :





"Molecular control over all matter ONLY LIMITED BY HIS OWN MENTAL INHIBITIONS".

And just above in the same picture :

"placing conditions upon his own power, SUCH HAS his EARLY BELIEF he was incapable of manipulating genetic material".


But Owen got rid of his mental inhibitions like this one about manipulating the genetic material :



Which means that he was at full power as he got rid of all the negative beliefs he had placed upon his abilities PREVIOUS to his incarceration into the raft.

And again from the Avengers Most Wanted Files (the scan that you are used to spam out-of-context) :



"The Molecule Man can reshape all forms of matter and energy, LIMITED ONLY BY HIS BELIEF IN HIS ABILITIES."

On top of that, Tom Brevoort whom edited the Dark Avengers was asked if :

"Was the Molecule Man in that arc in that book somehow weakened / depowered, OR was he just fine and at his regular post-retcon levels ?"

And Brevoort answered :

"So far as I know he was the regular Molecule Man in that story"

Tom Brevoort meaning that Molecule Man was not weakened, nor depowered.



About the fight against Klaw, we know that Molecule Man was depowered in the story and the Avengers Most Wanted Files recall us that again :





"Owen was dispatched from the Cube, powerless, but had left a portion of his power in Volcana, and she was able to restore his power to him."

Owen just had a portion of his powers against Klaw and had to train to surpass the other Cosmic Cube-beings after and he stomped the Beyonder in Fantastic Four Annual #27.


Summary :

Owen was depowered against Klaw.

Owen was at full power against Sentry.

Sentry swated Owen like a fly.

Darkseid isn't even close to be an universal-being.


Sentry swat Darkseid like a fly.


Call me anytime you need more information (on topic and in context as you seems to enjoy to avoid both).

Well I shouldn't talk to the people like you. But here we go.

Just removing Darkseid from his time line collapsed entire creation.
Darkseid destroyed entire creation by just his absence in Legion.

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And it was specified that it was due to how powerful he was.

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Yeah, Darkseid swats Sentry like a fly. Repeat the same scans over and over, why don't you?


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The same basic thing was happening in Final Crisis: Darkseid's 'fall' from the 4th world into the mainstream multiverse created a singularity that was destroying/collapsing all of creation--and Darkseid was that singularity.


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Well I shouldn't talk to the people like you. But here we go.

Just removing Darkseid from his time line collapsed entire creation.
Darkseid destroyed entire creation by just his absence in Legion.


Yeah, Darkseid swats Sentry like a fly. Repeat the same scans over and over, why don't you?





Darkseid's death triggered a temporal schockwave that progressively made the Universe collapse.

Sentry can rewrite the reality in the same fashion than HOM Wanda did, on a whim.

Sentry stomps.



Thanks for adding nothing valuable for Darkseid to win this fight.

You just proved that Darkseid's can, at best, trigger a succession of events in the DC Universe when a simple psionic outburst can allow Sentry to erase Darkseid forever.

They aren't on the same level.

Darkseid would be below Thanos if he was in the Marvel Universe.

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Sentry re writing reality like HOM wanda lmao


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Sentry re writing reality like HOM wanda lmao


That's Tony Stark's words against yours.

I side with Tony Stark.

Marvel edited literally two complete issues about Tony Stark's reports, as the National Secretary of Defense, to the President of the USA.

http://marvel.com/comics/series/110..._war_files_2006

In the first one, Iron Man, head of the President's Super Hero Task Force, said that Sentry can create another House Of M on a simple psionic outburst.

http://marvel.com/comics/issue/6031...e_damage_2007_1

In the second, he said that Sentry has "the potential for unlimited psionic ability" exactly like the Beyonder.

That's literally two entire volumes among the 7 others concerning the Civil War.

That's the point of view of Marvel about the Sentry against your opinion.

That shows how important the opinion of this character matters to Marvel and how strong the context is about the threat that the Sentry represents.

Darkseid is probably a top dog in DC comics but in Marvel he would just be a big joke.

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That's Tony Stark's words against yours.

I side with Tony Stark.

Marvel edited literally two complete issues about Tony Stark's reports, as the National Secretary of Defense, to the President of the USA.

http://marvel.com/comics/series/110..._war_files_2006

In the first one, Iron Man, head of the President's Super Hero Task Force, said that Sentry can create another House Of M on a simple psionic outburst.

http://marvel.com/comics/issue/6031...e_damage_2007_1

In the second, he said that Sentry has "the potential for unlimited psionic ability" exactly like the Beyonder.

That's literally two entire volumes among the 7 others concerning the Civil War.

That's the point of view of Marvel about the Sentry against your opinion.

That shows how important the opinion of this character matters to Marvel and how strong the context is about the threat that the Sentry represents.

Darkseid is probably a top dog in DC comics but in Marvel he would just be a big joke.
so no real on panel evidence of Sentry doing it, just saying "he could maybe do it" doesn't cut it.


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Sentry re writing reality like HOM wanda lmao
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Keep in mind this is the same guy using What Ifs as proof, says Superman, Gladiator etc. have no true combat speed etc.

He is breaking records left and right as far as how delusional one can be.

The best thing to do is put him on ignore, and he'll just fade away.


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Cool.


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so no real on panel evidence of Sentry doing it, just saying "he could maybe do it" doesn't cut it.
Irony.


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Darkseid's death triggered a temporal schockwave that progressively made the Universe collapse.


Darkseid wasn't dead. He was just moved away from the time line.
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Sentry can rewrite the reality in the same fashion than HOM Wanda did, on a whim.

Sentry stomps.


No, he can't. Darkseid can create new realities and destroy the whole multiverse just by his presence.

Sentry is a bug compared to that.
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Thanks for adding nothing valuable for Darkseid to win this fight.

You just proved that Darkseid's can, at best, trigger a succession of events in the DC Universe when a simple psionic outburst can allow Sentry to erase Darkseid forever.


Haha, sure.

It's nice to have dreams.

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They aren't on the same level.

Darkseid would be below Thanos if he was in the Marvel Universe.

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Yes, Owen was weakened. We've already established that.

Nice of you to post the same scan over and over though.


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Whoa, calm down.


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so no real on panel evidence of Sentry doing it, just saying "he could maybe do it" doesn't cut it.


Nice joke.

That and the molecule man feat just put Sentry above everything Darkseid has done.

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Darkseid wasn't dead. He was just moved away from the time line.

No, he can't. Darkseid can create new realities and destroy the whole multiverse just by his presence.

Sentry is a bug compared to that.

Haha, sure.

It's nice to have dreams.



Yes, Owen was weakened. We've already established that.

Nice of you to post the same scan over and over though.


Darkseid get his ass spanked by Superman whom is on par with Hyperion & Gladiator.

Both are a big joke to the Sentry.


I provided proofs coming from Marvel that Molecule Man wasn't weakened.

Your fan-fictions are interesting anyway.

That's the very first time that I post the Molecule Man feat but as you ignore feats and enjoy making-up elseworlds about your favorite characters, you have no problem lying about what you are reading here.

On topic you didn't show anything combat applicable that could affect the Sentry.

Good luck with that.


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Nice joke.

That and the molecule man feat just put Sentry above everything Darkseid has done.



Darkseid get his ass spanked by Superman whom is on par with Hyperion & Gladiator.

Both are a big joke to the Sentry.


I provided proofs coming from Marvel that Molecule Man wasn't weakened.

Your fan-fictions are interesting anyway.

That's the very first time that I post the Molecule Man feat but as you ignore feats and enjoy making-up elseworlds about your favorite characters, you have no problem lying about what you are reading here.

On topic you didn't show anything combat applicable that could affect the Sentry.

Good luck with that.
beating a weak unstable molecule man lol


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beating a weak unstable molecule man lol


Are you blind ?

I already showed that he wasn't weakened, nor depowered.

Tom Brevoort closed the debate via answering that he was at his regular Cosmic Cube-level.

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You have weird fantasies.


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Are you blind ?

I already showed that he wasn't weakened, nor depowered.

Tom Brevoort closed the debate via answering that he was at his regular Cosmic Cube-level.
he admitted he'd struggle with a nuke and healing powers.

Tom B's words mean shit on here. Plus he contradicts himself all the time.


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