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^^^Since his first appearance, yeah.
How that translates to striking feats is the good part.


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You were the one who said Karate Kid was the only MA that was impressive in DC and that's hardly true. I've already matched all of MU soldiers and MA not too long ago.

Val has evaded the Speed Force Wally West, taken a beating from a DAXAMITE, pinned a pre-Crisis Kryptonian, etc... PC Val was on another level.
when did I say that?

While that's all very impressive, what does that have to do with striking power?


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For striking feats Val has destroyed a substance that PC Superboy needed the "strength of insanity" to break.

I really do not get why people here have a problem with Karate Kid. A lot of them have trouble with the whole "it's all due to space karate" thing. If you're dodging speed force infused lightning after it hits you and tearing apart beings that gave Supergirl trouble(while sick) then you are far above Iron Fist.


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when did I say that?

While that's all very impressive, what does that have to do with striking power?


You said it like last month. Since a few of you were just listing feats, so was i. Do you think Val can beat Danny?

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At his height Val can literally win with a single punch.


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You said it like last month. Since a few of you were just listing feats, so was i. Do you think Val can beat Danny?
By "last month" do you mean a couple days ago?


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For striking feats Val has destroyed a substance that PC Superboy needed the "strength of insanity" to break.

I really do not get why people here have a problem with Karate Kid. A lot of them have trouble with the whole "it's all due to space karate" thing. If you're dodging speed force infused lightning after it hits you and tearing apart beings that gave Supergirl trouble(while sick) then you are far above Iron Fist.
I have no problem with val, but his feats seem to involve striking at his opponent's weak points. I also, don't want to be cheap, but pc Val would be excluded from this (since we go by most recent versions).
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You said it like last month. Since a few of you were just listing feats, so was i. Do you think Val can beat Danny?
I would really like to see that post, especially since have never and will never think that karate kid is the only skilled martial artist in dc. Yeah, based off of their averages, val would beat danny.


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I have no problem with val, but his feats seem to involve striking at his opponent's weak points. I also, don't want to be cheap, but pc Val would be excluded from this (since we go by most recent versions). I would really like to see that post, especially since have never and will never think that karate kid is the only skilled martial artist in dc. Yeah, based off of their averages, val would beat danny.


You didn't say Val was the only skilled MA, just the only one that's impressive, stats wise or something. I'll try and find it later.

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PC Val broke out of Inertron restraints,.held PC Superboy in a muscle lock, and canceled out an earth quake by creating his own with a stomp. So more then Karnak weak point striking.

As for current versions,.nearly every one of them have fought against Kryptonian level speed. The number of martial artists who can do that, you can count on one hand using half the fingers (Mantis is one of them.)

Danny's fast, but not that fast.


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I should have made this a fight, but i dont think it would have gotten this much back & forth; thank you.


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Karate Kid is the unquestioned king of MA in mainstream american comics. This is why he just gets left out most often. lol.


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^^^True that.
I figured narrowing it down to one feat might make it interesting. It kind of did i guess!


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Even if you exclude PC stuff you still have him fighting Mon El' and redirecting the guy into another galaxy. You have the whole "dodges speed force infused lightning after being hit" feat. You have the feat of him tearing apart something that gave Supergirl trouble and he was sick when he did it.

Does anyone here think Iron Fist could of replicated those feats?


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If by replicate you mean surpass, then yes


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Okay so you feel Iron Fist could surpass the lightning dodging feat? Really? Or all the other stuff?


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Everything KK has ever done besides his losses. He would fail at losing


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What feats make you think this?


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All of them


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Well he did punch a dragon in the heart, that earns some respect.


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Even if you exclude PC stuff you still have him fighting Mon El' and redirecting the guy into another galaxy. You have the whole "dodges speed force infused lightning after being hit" feat. You have the feat of him tearing apart something that gave Supergirl trouble and he was sick when he did it.

Does anyone here think Iron Fist could of replicated those feats?


Mon-el kills danny.

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