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Does anyone else find Rumpelstiltskin from Once Upon a Time to be a complete jerk?

*Spoilers, Duh*

Am I the only one who finds Once Upon a Time to be Depressing when it comes to Rumpelstiltskin. He is such a Villain.


Think about this.... His own son who he loved & died to protect gave his life to bring Rumple back so he could help stop the wicked witch. His son died believing his father was redeemed. Rumple has a second chance of life.... A chance to redeem himself and honor his son's memory by becoming a better man.... And what does he chose to do with this second chance??? He uses it to gain more power and becomes all the more corrupt.

He completely dishonors his sonís memory. His own son gave his life, and Rumple was given a second chance yet he uses his second chance at life to more evil. What a monster!!!

Also, he lied to Belle, making her believe that he had redeemed himself and had truly changed, but he hadn't. He was the same evil dark one as always.

When she found out, she left him (quite right too), and Rumple seemed to feel regret).

However, as evil as all these things are, one could argue that the dark power is just like a drug that he wants to be free from, but is part of him so he can't help continuing down the dark path.

In season 5, he's free from the darkness. He's no longer the dark one (the dagger goes to another) and says he's sorry for the evil he's committed. He seems to show regret for lying to Belle and wants to change. Belle even gives him another chance. Rumple promises Belle to become the man she wanted him to be. And he's now free from the dagger, so the darkness is no longer a part of him. He can chose the lighter path.

But despite this, he choses to become the dark one again (out of his own free will) and continues down the evil path. Heís learned nothing! Heís going to continue lying to Belle again and continue manipulating her, and broke his promise to her. He flat-out stated earlier that he felt awful for what he did to Belle and how heís doing it all over again. Will he ever learn??? I mean, come on! Belle is obviously going to find out that heís lied to her eventually, and sheíll then leave him for good.

If he really loves her like he says he does, why isnít he willing to change for her? Heís obviously going to break her heart again! He is also completely dishonoring his sonís memory. Will he ever learn! For this reason, I just hate the character! Heís an absolute monster who can never be redeemed. All of his regrets like abandoning his son, etc are down to the dark power, so why doesnít he be rid of it? I keep rooting for Rumple to become good but he keeps going the dark way. What a jerk!!!

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Are you a girl? I cant imagine a self-respecting guy watching Once Upon a Time.


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He's played by Robert Carlyle, so it doesn't surprise me if he is a complete tool. The guy plays tools well. I never did actually get into this show, I preferred Grimm to be honest.


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Are you a girl? I cant imagine a self-respecting guy watching Once Upon a Time.


NO, I'm a guy. I actually really like OUAT. I think it's very good.

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He's played by Robert Carlyle, so it doesn't surprise me if he is a complete tool. The guy plays tools well. I never did actually get into this show, I preferred Grimm to be honest.


What's Grimm about?

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A world inspired by the Brothers Grimm fairy tales. It's a cop who is a "grimm" someone who can see the true face of supernatural beings(he has other powers too).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimm_%28TV_series%29


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Are you a girl? I cant imagine a self-respecting guy watching Once Upon a Time.


I know some Boomers who watch it.

They also watch Desperate Housewives and women's college basketball.

Boomers are weird.


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I dont watch the show but isnt that "Rumpelstiltskin" thing? To be a jerk?
In his fairy tale (source material) he is the bad guy.

Him being a jerk shouldn't be surprising.


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Are you a girl? I cant imagine a self-respecting guy watching Once Upon a Time.


Says the guy who made a Eastenders thread...

laughing out loud

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Says the guy who made a Eastenders thread...

laughing out loud
The show where there's someone getting punched every episode? More manly then OUAT.


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I dont watch the show but isnt that "Rumpelstiltskin" thing? To be a jerk?
In his fairy tale (source material) he is the bad guy.

Him being a jerk shouldn't be surprising.


My problem isn't so much him being evil per say.

it's that the writers keep making you believe he's on his way to being a good guy. In one episode he even gave his life for his loved ones. And was later brought back only to continue down the evil path.

He feels genuin regret & guilt for his past mistakes, but never seems to learn from them. He just continues being evil. If he was just evil, I wouldn't have a problem, but it's that he keeps choosing evil despite what it's done to his loved ones.

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The show where there's someone getting punched every episode? More manly then OUAT.


Erm... There are loads of guys who like Disney Princess films like Beauty & the Beast, Tangled & Frozen. How is it that guys can like DP films & no-one bats an eye, but if they like OUAT it's considered weird? How exactly? There are even grown men who watch My Little Pony, but Once Upon a Time (a series with a dark twist on fairy tales) is going too far??? I mean, seriously??? How does that follow?

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People also think if you like a show it means you like every aspect. I like the Vampire Diaries, but not for the silly teen drama stuff. I enjoy some of the characters and the supernatural storyline.


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Are you a girl? I cant imagine a self-respecting guy watching Once Upon a Time.


You say that now but in the next ten or so years when you finally hit puberty and all the zits have cleared up, you'll be that self-respecting man yourself watching something others would consider "unmanly" also.


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People also think if you like a show it means you like every aspect. I like the Vampire Diaries, but not for the silly teen drama stuff. I enjoy some of the characters and the supernatural storyline.


Exactly!

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No shit, Rumpelstiltskin a jerk? Whaaa???


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You say that now but in the next ten or so years when you finally hit puberty and all the zits have cleared up, you'll be that self-respecting man yourself watching something others would consider "unmanly" also.
And 10 years after that, puberty will still have eluded you, you'll be trying to figure out where the time went when you tried to defend a show that tries to make Disney movies realistic.

I have nothing against the thread-starter, I just can't imagine a full-grown man watching this show.


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And 10 years after that, puberty will still have eluded you, you'll be trying to figure out where the time went when you tried to defend a show that tries to make Disney movies realistic.

I have nothing against the thread-starter, I just can't imagine a full-grown man watching this show.


Nor can I imagine you getting past your insecurities anytime soon.

I watched the show. Every season! There is nothing in it that says a man can't watch. I'm beginning to suspect you haven't even seen it.


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And 10 years after that, puberty will still have eluded you, you'll be trying to figure out where the time went when you tried to defend a show that tries to make Disney movies realistic.

I have nothing against the thread-starter, I just can't imagine a full-grown man watching this show.


Filmmasteradam likes it and he's a well respected and popular film critic on YouTube.

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And 10 years after that, puberty will still have eluded you, you'll be trying to figure out where the time went when you tried to defend a show that tries to make Disney movies realistic.

I have nothing against the thread-starter, I just can't imagine a full-grown man watching this show.


Do you think the same about men who watch My Little Pony? Because surely that's way more girly than OUAT. Do you think the same about guys who like Frozen? Or other Disney Princess films?
OUAT isn't that inappropriate for guys. It's not like I'm watching Twilight or something.

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