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Getting further along..enjoying it, increasingly wondering if reviewers getting butthurt over the casting allowed that to taint their views of the quality of the series.

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I hate to sound like a broken record... But choreography.
DD was a step in the right direction in making bad guys and heroes seem more than human.

Then along came iron fist.


Speaking of Daredevil, did you know Marvel had the utter audacity to cast a guy who isn't blind..as a blind guy? People Marvel hates:

-Asians
-Asian culture
-Blind people


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All this garbage isn't out of nowhere, though. The asian actor they turned down complained about it, and that stoked the "controversy".

Would like to know a bit more about what went on behind the scenes there.


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Holy **** people are wanking the hell out of [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Bakuto and Davos in CV. I guess getting shitcanned by the lead is an impressive feat and in the case of the former nearly losing to his student.


People on CV are prone to riding the hype train when new shows/movies come out, and give those characters more credit than they are due because they are new and shiny.


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Its funny how they're saying that given that they casted a Hindu man as Davos, lol. They even recast someone who was White in the comics, so yeah its clearly not an issue of cultural appropriation here


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almost done..

just 3 more episodes

i like it, just an issue here or there but its nothing to be butthurt about


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I liked seeing the dynamic between Ward and his Dad. Reminds me a bit of Lionel Luthor and Lex from Smallville.


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It completely tripped me out to realize Harold Meachum's actor portrayed Faramir in LOTR


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Four episodes in and I'm enjoying it. I feel it's far better then Luke Cage so far. My biggest problem was Danny being an absolute idiot in the first two episodes.


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I'm on episode 8 and so far Danny is the worst thing in the series by far.


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Its funny how they're saying that given that they casted a Hindu man as Davos, lol. They even recast someone who was White in the comics, so yeah its clearly not an issue of cultural appropriation here


I'm not even bothering to click on articles that are spreading this cultural appropriation bullcrap. Danny Rand has been around for 45 years and as soon as he debuts in live action they get high and mighty. They probably think Hawkeye from The Last Of The Mohicans should be a full blooded Indian, when being an outsider is what defines the character. Being a martial artist isn't the sole domain of Asian characters. And then they turn around and complain when Asian martial artists how up and say it's a tired cliche, too.

I'm nearly through the season. It's a solid show, but it's 5th best of the five Marvel Netflix shows thus far. Danny's naive act was kind of annoying in the beginning, but it is true to being a fish out of water in the corporate world.

Just wait until the fight with the drunken master...
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Zhou was really ****ing skilled. Danny fought a far more diverse array of fighters than Matt did, but still Im hesitant to say he's all that much more skilled. The Chi ability tips the balance though and he's likely the most powerful Defender. I'm so hyped for Defenders June needs to hurry the **** up and get here.


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Zhou was really ****ing skilled. Danny fought a far more diverse array of fighters than Matt did, but still Im hesitant to say he's all that much more skilled. The Chi ability tips the balance though and he's likely the most powerful Defender. I'm so hyped for Defenders June needs to hurry the **** up and get here.


I still put Luke as the most powerful overall. [SPOILER - highlight to read]: The Iron Fist is great and all, but Danny only uses it like once or twice in a fight, and not even every fight, and rarely right at the beginning. He has to focus to give himself super strong punches. On the flip side, Luke has to focus not to hit too hard and kill anyone. Plus, I don't see Danny taking a bazooka, followed by a building falling on him, as well as Luke did.

They should be a pretty solid team though. Got a good mix of muscle, skill, and some more exotic abilities, like DD's senses and Danny's [SPOILER - highlight to read]: newfound ability to heal people to make them a formidable group. Now someone just needs to teach Jessica how to fight better. If she had to develop some proper fighting skills, she'd be extremely dangerous.

On a random note, rewatched his fight with [SPOILER - highlight to read]: the Drunken Fist guy. Noticed they were actually using a stunt-double for Danny during bits of that fight. The hoodie hides it for the most part, but some camera angles allow you to see that it was not Finn Jones doing some of the moves. No wonder that fight looked better than most of the others.


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I'm 11 episodes in... and the best word I can find for the show is "mediocre." It's not unwatchable by any means or else I wouldn't have gotten this far, but it's just underwhelming.

The fight scenes are absolutely horrible though considering that this is a martial arts/kung fu series. Everything is just bad--the choreography, the editing, the sound effects, and especially the actors. Nothing about Finn Jones suggests that he had 15 years of intense mental and physical training. Instead, he moves and and looks exactly like what he is, a skinny guy who spent a month in the gym. You don't have to be a martial artist to look like one on film, but you do need to be athletic and well-coordinated. The actor is neither. Honestly, he moves about as well as the actress who plays Jessica Jones.

I don't know who thought it'd be a good idea to cast him. He was underwhelming as Loras as well. It's like the cast directors thought, "Gay guy. That means we should cast the sissiest looking guy available. Nevermind that Loras is supposed to be a badass knight." For Iron Fist, it's like they just looked for a blond white guy who wouldn't be too expensive to hire.

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Zhou was really ****ing skilled. Danny fought a far more diverse array of fighters than Matt did, but still Im hesitant to say he's all that much more skilled. The Chi ability tips the balance though and he's likely the most powerful Defender. I'm so hyped for Defenders June needs to hurry the **** up and get here.


Might not be more skilled than Matt, but in a fight all Danny would need is a single solid hit with the IF.


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I'm 11 episodes in... and the best word I can find for the show is "mediocre." It's not unwatchable by any means or else I wouldn't have gotten this far, but it's just underwhelming.

The fight scenes are absolutely horrible though considering that this is a martial arts/kung fu series. Everything is just bad--the choreography, the editing, the sound effects, and especially the actors. Nothing about Finn Jones suggests that he had 15 years of intense mental and physical training. Instead, he moves and and looks exactly like what he is, a skinny guy who spent a month in the gym. You don't have to be a martial artist to look like one on film, but you do need to be athletic and well-coordinated. The actor is neither. Honestly, he moves about as well as the actress who plays Jessica Jones.

I don't know who thought it'd be a good idea to cast him. He was underwhelming as Loras as well. It's like the cast directors thought, "Gay guy. That means we should cast the sissiest looking guy available. Nevermind that Loras is supposed to be a badass knight." For Iron Fist, it's like they just looked for a blond white guy who wouldn't be too expensive to hire.


Probably thought he was a better fit for the cbaracter.

Which honestly, he's nailed. You can find plenty of athletic, tough looking white guys, but the problem is none of them have that Danny quirky personality.

Just read current Power Man and Iron Fist. Stereotypical baddass, martial artist he ain't.


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I'm on episode 8 and so far Danny is the worst thing in the series by far.


Think I'm on 6 and I have to agree, this show is stumbling hard and weak lead is a main reason.


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Its unfortunate to hear that this show isn't turning out to be all that great. Well there is still the Defenders to look forward to I suppose.

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Its unfortunate to hear that this show isn't turning out to be all that great. Well there is still the Defenders to look forward to I suppose.


A couple of opinions.

A few others seem to like him.

Me, it was a rough start but he's grown on me after the second episode.


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Its unfortunate to hear that this show isn't turning out to be all that great. Well there is still the Defenders to look forward to I suppose.

The terrible reviews are complete overreactions.


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