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FreshestSlice
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Did you miss the part where, simply by tapping into the Mortis nexus, Anakin stomped the Son and Daughter simultaneously? He's obviously far more potent a conduit, and far stronger a Force user when given a boost.

That wasn't what I asked. Anakin may be a great conduit for controlling BOTH sides of the Force, but he's dealing with one here.
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Regardless that's besides the point, 1 + 1 equals 2, funnily enough. The Son + the power of Anakin is going to be stronger than the Son alone.

Which is not what's said. It's just Anakin channeling the Dark Side.

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That wasn't what I asked. Anakin may be a great conduit for controlling BOTH sides of the Force, but he's dealing with one here.
OK, but Anakin is a great conduit for the Force full stop frankly - in all its aspects.

And I'd say being literally the Force incarnate > being the dark side incarnate metaphorically.
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Which is not what's said. It's just Anakin channeling the Dark Side.
No you said, and I quote it's 'Anakin imbued with the "very essence of the Dark Side," i.e. the Son' - if you want to change the goal posts and say it was Anakin alone, then fine. But in remains an assumption to conclude that the Son > DS Chosen One on little more than personal belief and in the face of Mortakin stomping both in and the Daughter at once.


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I think Fresh is meaning that full!potential Anakin > Son & Daughter =/> regular Anakin channeling The Son.

Now if it's full!potential Anakin + Son? Then yeah, I agree. But I'm not sure the text indicates either way.

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I would merely point out their is nothing regular about Anakin stomping Yoda and Sidious. Either way we are witnessing Anakin with his powers of the dark side fully realised.


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Originally posted by Beniboybling
I would merely point out their is nothing regular about Anakin stomping Yoda and Sidious. Either way we are witnessing Anakin with his powers of the dark side fully realised.


Well sure but that might merely be the product of borrowed powers from The Son. I dunno, haven't read that infinities thing in ages.

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Following:

Valkorion is in the league of Abeloth and The Ones

Palpatine (Dark Empire) > Luke Skywalker

Darth Malgus > Darth Vader

Arcann is on par with Darth Plagueis

Vaylin > Darth Vader

Revan is in the league of Yoda

Darth Jadus > Darth Vader

Exar Kun > Darth Vader

Darth Nox (augmented by the power of several ghosts) > Darth Plagueis

Darth Krayt is in the league of Luke Skywalker

Obi-Wan Kenobi is a powerful Jedi

Tulak Hord > Darth Plagueis


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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Valkorion is in the league of Abeloth and The Ones


meh. When looking at it from your point of view, him being comparable to Abeloth is understandable enough. The other Ones should still be out of his reach, though, unless you're in support of the idea that Abeloth is stronger than her children?

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Palpatine (Dark Empire) > Luke Skywalker


Very understandable. Even if he doesn't have Luke's raw power and balance, his unrestricted acceptance of the dark side could very well make him a more formidable foe.

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Darth Malgus > Darth Vader


I thought this was a fairly common stance. One I've always disagreed with, but common nonetheless.

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Vaylin > Darth Vader


Even though she was defeated by Senya?

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Revan is in the league of Yoda


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meh. When looking at it from your point of view, him being comparable to AbelothYoda is understandable enough.


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Exar Kun > Darth Vader


This was the majority group not long ago, and is still fairly persistent.

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Darth Krayt is in the league of Luke Skywalker


Yaaaaaas

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Obi-Wan Kenobi is a powerful Jedi


sad I wish I could say that this wasn't unorthodox.

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Kyp Durron > Count Dooku


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Most of the battles on this forum where people say Character X stomps Character Y would not actually end in a stomp. The weaker character would probably be able to put up a fight and hold out for a while. The weaker character might even be able to win under certain circumstances.

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That's not an unorthodox opinion. We say they stomp because the advantage is so obvious, no one sees the point in actually debating it. Unless it's Kanan, obviously.

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Anakin Skywalker surpasses Yoda in raw power.
Darth Plagueis is more powerful than Vitiate.
Darth Caedus would defeat novel Vitiate.
Kyp Durron is more powerful than Darth Vader.
Darth Vader is above Revan.


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Originally posted by The Ellimist
Anakin Skywalker surpasses Yoda in raw power.


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Originally posted by The Ellimist
Darth Plagueis is more powerful than Vitiate.


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Darth Caedus would defeat novel Vitiate.


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Kyp Durron is more powerful than Darth Vader.


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Darth Vader is above Revan.


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Originally posted by The Ellimist
Anakin Skywalker surpasses Yoda in raw power.


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Darth Plagueis is more powerful than Vitiate.


Yeah, I suppose that's pretty unorthodox.

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Darth Caedus would defeat novel Vitiate.


It's possible, if Drew's writing Vitiate during the fight. thumb up

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Kyp Durron is more powerful than Darth Vader.


*gufaws*

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Darth Vader is above Revan.


Not unorthodox at all; half the forum thinks so.

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The Ellimist
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Kyp Durron replicated the black hole feat with greater ease than Luke did, lmao.


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Originally posted by The Ellimist
Anakin Skywalker surpasses Yoda in raw power.
Darth Plagueis is more powerful than Vitiate.
Darth Caedus would defeat novel Vitiate.
Kyp Durron is more powerful than Darth Vader.
Darth Vader is above Revan.

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Yes

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1) Darth Malgus can't win against Yoda.
2) Revan doesn't win more than 6/10 against Yoda.
3) Darth Malgus beats Darth Nyriss.
4) Lana Beniko stomps Plo Koon in the Force.
5) Even by the novel, Vitiate was already equal to DE Palpatine.
6) Dread Masters can actually stomp Palpatine in TP.


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Originally posted by NewGuy01

*gufaws*


If you want to belittle Kyp's competence as a combatant, go ahead. But his raw power is pretty firmly established, lol.


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laughing out loud

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