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I’ve listened to Hardcore History though not the ones about the Celtic Holocaust. Regardless, I’ve never considered Julius to be evil even though he did terrible things particularly during the Gallic Wars (which is what you seem to be hinting at).


The podcast is doing the hinting, that's the title he went with on it. smile


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I won't disagree that letting them survive would have been the better move based on what she knows now. But at the time she didn't know Sam was allied with Jon, nor did she know the true danger of the White Walkers, nor that Jon was a claimant to the throne with an even better pedigree then her. At the time, she thought killing them was the best solution and frankly I agree (based on only what she knew then). Yes, had she let them live things would have turned out great for her. But that's only because of a bunch of rather massive coincidences.
There was always the chance of their being another male heir to House Tarley (or an aggressive female heir like Sansa or Asha that also would have sided with the competition, whether it's Jon or Cersei). It's another piece of info she should have taken into account when making that choice. There's a reason Tywin wipes out his enemies root and stem. Otherwise having valuable prisoners like them would at least keep the rest of their House in check. Sure, it's unfortunate circumstance (for her) that that new household head has Jons ear, but my point is complications arise when characters make rash decisions (Joff executing Ned to make a "statement" that ended up spawning four other kings for example). It's a complex choice to make, but she made it overly simple and binary. I wouldn't call every unforeseen consequence stemming from an uninformed choice a coincidence. More just her making her bed and having to lay in it. I agree with Tyrion. It was the wrong choice to make. We'll agree to disagree and just enjoy it playing out however it does though. thumb up


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Killing the Tarleys was a statement. By doing so, she ensured the rest of her captives would “bend da knee”. Had the captives not done so, they would have been a massive drain on her resources rather then an asset.


Rest of what captives?

The only captives that matter and actually have a stake in the war beyond a paycheck are nobility. Do you think bumblephuck drafted man at arms former baker #1453 would have instigated a rebellion or something?

She incinerated them because she's an idiot and a tyrant, lol.


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A rebellion? No. But they may have gone back and joined Cersi's other forces or turn bandit. Dany couldn't let them just go unharmed, she needed to do something with them. Dany wanted them to join her and by incinerating the Tarlys she succeeded in getting them to do so.

She is a tyrant though. I won't disagree with you there. Nor is she the sharpest tool in the shed. I just don't think this was the huge blunder and crime others claim it to be.

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I really liked Tormund in the last episode.

The main thing he cared about while they're waiting for death and destruction to arrive was, "Is that big woman still here?" laughing out loud

And then the story about how he drank giant's milk and that's why he's so strong followed by that hilariously awkward moment of him chugging his horn drink. laughing out loud

Pure gold.


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Im pretty sure bran's gonna get the stabby stabby treatment next ep


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I really liked Tormund in the last episode.

The main thing he cared about while they're waiting for death and destruction to arrive was, "Is that big woman still here?" laughing out loud

And then the story about how he drank giant's milk and that's why he's so strong followed by that hilariously awkward moment of him chugging his horn drink. laughing out loud

Pure gold.


I proper belly laughed at Brienne's stupid smiley face as well.


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Yeah absolute power bv has corrupted Dany to an extreme. And she doesn't even see she's a few stone throws away from being her grandfather. The only difference is bgg he was legitimately insane and she's just a b*tch with a power complex.

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Im pretty sure bran's gonna get the stabby stabby treatment next ep


I was hoping to see him "warg" a bit more before it's all said and done.


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I was hoping to see him "warg" a bit more before it's all said and done.
He will. He's done fuk all with his powers since he got back. There's definitely something narratively big in store for Bran.


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If Jon truly didn't want the iron throne he could have told Dani he'd keep his lineage a secret. Sam won't tell and who of importance gives two shits what Bran has to say?

Though "the things we do for love" was an epic burn.


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I was hoping to see him "warg" a bit more before it's all said and done.


i think that will occur as well. maybe he'll warg into one of the dragons just before he kicks the bucket, like orell did with his hawk

it just a general rule these days, that the really bad thing everyone is trying to avoid will happen, like thanos' snap. the long night is coming


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Is anyone else hoping that everyone dies and that the Night King wins?


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Is anyone else hoping that everyone dies and that the Night King wins?



Of course, he's really the only unannoying character left... because he doesn't speak.


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I wonder if Arya is gonna try to disguise herself as a white walker in order to get to the Night King.

Also it's gonna be hilarious if his army turns up in Winterfell, but he's off about to go burn King's Landing to ash with his zombie dragon.

If he can locate Bran whenever wherever then there is no hurry to get to him lol. He can destroy everything else and save him for last.


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IDK how accurate this is since I've never seen more than 13 White Walkers (though Craster's sons would have to give considerably more than that). The dead foot soldiers have gone down pretty easily in the past and this means the human army is outnumbered almost 3 to 1 (though there will also be the odd undead animal/giant and White Walker tipping the scales even more). There's also the fact that everyone who dies joins the wight army.

The only thing the living have going for them are two dragons to the WWs one. If everyone is outfitted with dragon glass, I can buy most taking at least 3+ wights each and the dragons taking out tons (unless each WW has that god tier throwing arm the NK does). Plus, if they get a WW, they get its ever wight it's ever brought back. They are at a disadvantage, but it doesn't look impossible.

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Someone gonna git stabbed


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Cersei's head is a nice touch.


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Cersei's head is a nice touch.


That's what Jaime said, zing!


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