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Bashar Teg
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I was thinking more along the lines of the Lannisters. Loren initially waged war, but after he was defeated Aegon allowed him to surrender and kneel. But, yes, if Loren (or someone else) had publicly executed Aegon's closest friend he may not have been so forgiving. Consider what he did to Dorne after they killed one of his wives.


I think we are actually in agreement then, but I'm being strict/anal over the definition of insanity. Ruthlessly ambitious and evil minded when it suits that ambition? yes. Insane? no.


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I think we are actually in agreement then, but I'm being strict/anal over the definition of insanity. Ruthlessly ambitious and evil minded when it suits that ambition? yes. Insane? no.


Ruthless and ambitious would explain it if she never planned to spare the people of Kings Landing in the first place and just lied to Tyrion. Yet according to those behind the show she did intend to spare them and the sight of the red keep set her off. That leans more towards insanity.

You can spot this in the scene itself with the look on her face when she lands her dragon and looks at the red keep.


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Bottom line, it was shit writing no matter how you look at it.


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Bottom line, it was shit writing no matter how you look at it.
Put this on the cover for the blu-ray.


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Daenerys had shown signs of Targaryen cruelty and madness before episode five of season eight sure, but the writing this season that brought it about was poorly-written because, frankly, everyone acting like it was a given she'd be a mad queen before she snapped were not close to reasonably justified in their concerns with the sole exception of Sam.

Everyone gave her the cold shoulder and treated her like shit for seemingly no reason purely so the writers can justify her descent.


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You just prove my point. You have no idea what good storytelling and character developments are.

Here’s a good one. Imagine Thanos suddenly becoming good for no other reason just to become good in the span of 30 minutes on screens. No explanations giving.

Is that good storytelling? Is that good characterizations of a character that being the big bad for 10 years?
Your opinion is that alone. You openly sobbing because you are upset over their show is the gift that keeps on giving. She lost it. They foreshadowed her losing it for years. If you do not like it tough. Man up and quit losing your shit.


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you should get more triggered over a TV show. thumb up
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Your opinion is that alone. You openly sobbing because you are upset over their show is the gift that keeps on giving. She lost it. They foreshadowed her losing it for years. If you do not like it tough. Man up and quit losing your shit.


Says the guy that demands that His Opinion be valued more then others.


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Seem I cant you. But lets go.

watched coldly as her brother was tortured to death
-watched proudly as her husband vowed to rape the women of westeros
-burned a woman alive at drogo’s pyre
-threatened to burn all quarth’s citizens alive because of the actions of their leaders (hello?)
-crucified men in ‘eye for an eye’ “justice”, regardless of how their position on the majority decision of treatment of slaves
-destroyed the leadership of the free cities, carelessly leaving behind chaos and human suffering
-burned the tarleys alive for not bending the knee. Nothing more, no evil war crimes, just didn’t bend the knee.
-kept Jon snow captive and under threat because he didn’t bend the knee, even though she agreed to a parlay, supposedly in good faith (she lied)
-believed that the army of the dead would extinct humanity and stilll used it as a political bargaining chip

1. The same brother that nearly raped her, beat, tortured her, and generally blame her for the fall of their families?

2. When did that happen? This is the same Dany that saved the woman that would later doomed her child.

3. The same woman that killed her husband? That Dany was young, more stupid than mad.

4. Those same leaders that captured her dragons, threaten her family? Robert rebellion started on a lie. Yet he's war, and the murders of innocent are justified?

5. Those same masters that raped, crucified children? And yes, and eye for eye is the basis of power in that world.

6. Dany actually believed she was doing right. she actually believed the slaves wanted freedom. But she was to naïve, because you can't force freedom on slaves unless they wanted it.

7. The Tarly's were oath breakers. In Westeros, oath breakers are either killed or sent to the wall. How many people did Ned Stark killed for breaking an oath? Didn't Rob stark committed the crime when he behead the lord Karstark for wanting revenge on Jaime Lannister?

8. Jon was never under arrest. All Dany did was a show of strength. Jon wanted her to go fight in a war against magical creatures no one knew off. Not even the Northern lord believed Jon at first.

9. Again, no King or Queen fight for another King or Queen without with out proper leverage. Why the hell would Dany help Jon when she gets nothing out of it? Dany could have just sat back and let Westeros be run over. Yet she fought that was not her own. And in the end, she lost far more than anyone.

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There's a question:

What happens if Dany says "Screw your Long Night", packs her bags, and lets her enemies fall to the ice zombies? She'd be pretty safe across the sea, wouldn't she?


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knew i wasted my time.

she legit threatened the citizens (not just the leaders, but every man woman and child) of quarth with exactly the same thing she did to kings landing, so that was an especially cowardly dodge, among your other whataboutary dodges.

have fun being an irrational triggered mess over a TV show thumb up


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Says the guy that demands that His Opinion be valued more then others.


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knew i wasted my time.

she legit threatened the citizens (not just the leaders, but every man woman and child) of quarth with exactly the same thing she did to kings landing, so that was an especially cowardly dodge, among your other whataboutary dodges.

have fun being an irrational triggered mess over a TV show thumb up
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Isn't Squall annoying, the way he ignores any semblance of rational argument.


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Isn't Squall annoying, the way he ignores any semblance of rational argument.


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Isn't Squall annoying, the way he ignores any semblance of rational argument.


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Quanchichi is left spiceless....Noice.
Mmmm, I still think he's plenty flavourful.


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