GE, Zakuul have done nothing other than destroy a weakened Empire and Republic....I guess that's...nice, but hardly worth much when both sides have been constantly fighting and lost a lot of resources + good leadership and commanders.
There's also the point of neither the Empire or Republic have anywhere near the fleet power and logistics of the GE nor the manpower, especially during the time when Zakuul attacked.
Zakuul's biggest advantage is their Zakuul Knights, other than that...they have 0 commanders of note, 0 Special Forces(other than the ZKs) and less resources.
GE has all of this and a much, much bigger pool of resources to draw from, along with their super weapons.
GE is way better at being able to do multiple tasks weither it be straight fighting, espionage, sabotage, assassination, etc and so on. Far greater Commanders in Thrawn, Piett, Veers, Vader, etc
I don't see how, given they haven't done anything spectacular and have little to no information on their capabilities. Their Knights are the only impressive thing, but that's not winning them an entire war. They don't really have any answers for the Empire's super weapons either.
^ (ninjad by Neph) the Empire underwent the largest military buildup in galactic history, adding onto a 3000 year technological edge, superweapons as you mentioned, and a million world + 50 million colony industrial base.
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The Fleet has been in all of one battle, that's nice but it wasn't really anything overly impressive. They didn't show anything that other fleets of later wouldn't be able to do. If you mean their invasion, again that's nice, but it was against two factions who had been slugging it out for some time(depleting resources and losing viable commanders) and then the Fleet just came in and caught both flat footed.
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Anyone who's interacted with Neph for any reasonable length of time can track his descent into madness. My theory is that he's finally crumbled beneath pressure from various posters, such as carthage, who have not only refuted many of his deeply-held beliefs, but relentlessly mocked and tormented him. He's openly embraced his heresy and has situated himself alongside LeGenD.
Compared to the other things, they kind of are. The Fleet is ok, but I'm not really seeing how it stands out in doing what other fleets could do, the Skytroopers are alright.
Empire probs. The fact that they can create a Death Star shows their industry. Also since they're one of the few factions that has stats assigned to them we have a solid working on their firepower. I dunno much about the Zakuul but most things in regards to tech around that time don't really impress me.
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Technology wise, there's no refuting GE's superiority. Numbers-wise, however, is debatable. I don't dispute the massive industry that the GE has over Zakuul, but consider that they have knowledge of the GE's territory where Zakuul's is largely unknown to the rest of the Galaxy, and possesses the major advantage of the Knights. We also have the numbers advantage of major Force-sensitive leaders in favor of Zakuul (Arcann, Vaylin, presumably Thexan vs Vader). We also know that the synergy of EE is superior to that of the GE with the Gemini and all commands coming purely from the Eternal Throne. The SSD's of the GE are a major problem, for sure, but they're not indescribable, not a sure trump card. The Death Star is definitely a problem as well, but it's far from improbable that Zakuul can take it out. Looking at the scale of just three units, it can easily be noted that the Eternal Fleet is infinitely larger than the GE. Observe this image (ignore the paceman stuff)
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Also note how he calls one of the units "nine-eight-three." We can easily deduce that by this statement there are at least 983 units in the EF. Imagine that scale. There's no way the GE can cope with those numbers, let alone the GEMINI coordination.
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