What does classic Hype have to do with P5?
Purposely avoiding your little misstep I see. Figures. No show me these strength feats.
What did Gladiator do vs P5 other than getting the living shiet kicked out of him by PNamor and PColossus?
Should I bring up what Thor did to the entirety of the Phoenix entity? Going down this road for you does not end well.
Lol... Well for one he was holding back. Second, he was not out to kill Gladiator. You have a very strange idea of bloodlusted. Lol... So half dozen turned to 4 and 1 blast(final attack sequence) is several . Really hard to take you seriously.
Lol... Nice of you to post scans of a lesser Thor beating the shiet out of a willing to kill Gladiator. If you're going to go the route of misdirection at least understand the scans. Masterson hammering away at Gladz does not mean he needed 10 shots to put Gladz down. It was more than likely Gladz was out cold way before the full number of shots. As evidenced of course by the reaction of his teammates. Here you go again with the inability to properly comprehend stories.
Thor has been ko'd by far less. He's also survived far far worse like taking beating from multiple Celestials. You make no sense.
Now stop with the lowballing, misinterpretations, and misdirections and get to the heart of the matter. What feats of strength do Gladiator have that clearly put him above Thor? I have a sinking feeling you'll run from this question.
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Actually managed to hold himself against Cyclops in a lengthy fight and made him bleed. Cyclops overpowered Thor by a finger.
Phoenix itself isn't that durable. Xorn actually killed it and fractured it into billion pieces.
So now even then Thor was holding back? Haha, what else you want to make excuses for? Thor blasted Gladiator several times before that, he was fighting Tarene before that as well.
But Gladiator KTFO Thor with two punches, that doesn't counts for anything.
Riggggght.
Yes, after a cheapshot which stunned Gladiator. Before that he had beat the shit out of Masterson.
Gladiator wasn't even that badly injured and was regaining consciousness just pages after that.
Those many shots to the head by mjolnir would cave Thor's head in going by how he crumples to the floor anytime he gets hit by it.
He is at least conscious untill the sixth shot to the head after he was stunned.
Thor gets koed by a single shot from mjolnir from behind in such a situation. Not even an all out attack either.
Lengthy fight? Made him bleed? They started off with an eye blast that he was quickly losing then spears and punches PCyke. Then gets utterly annihilated by PNamor and PColossus.
Thor KO'd the full Phoenix by hitting it with enough force to send it flying planetary distances.
Now ure lowballing the Phoenix? Xorn for all the wierdness of the character had a "white star" in his head where he derived his power from. He caused her to have a massive stroke which ultimately scattered the PF into billions of pieces.
Thor was holding back until the very last sequence... What is hard to understand? It's right there in your scans.
Are we reading the same comic? A lesser Thor(Masterson) had a prolonged strength stalemate. Heck it's right there in your scan. Reading fail... I swear.
Like I said. Thor has been taken out by far less and has powered through things skyfather and beyond has no business surviving.
More of your irrelevant blather...
Read above and let the point sink in.
No when there's a lot of context involved. I know you are throwing out all kinds of deflections and fallacious reasoning as is your mo, but I tire of your style. Just show me these definitive feats of strength that clearly put Gladiator > Thor or classic Hype = Thor as you earlier claimed. Simple really....
The fact that Gladiator took so many attacks from Colossus and Namor is a feat in itself.
And Tony split it into five pieces. PF in itself isn't so durable. The fact that every phoenix wielder like Mar-Vell or Phoenix Five wiped their asses with Thor should tell you how it goes.
Xorn had a stored a planetary level EMP which Magneto tosses around with impunity.
Heck, Shiar ships were threatening to kill it.
He can't hold back his durability. He is not Superman.
Even going all out he took more attacks to stun Gladiator than Gladiator took to KTFO him. You can count, I take it?
The strength lock was for two panels. The ground gave out before anyone could overpower another.
That's not a stalemate.
And Masterson was exactly as strong as Thor.
So nothing matters anymore because he has survived far less and far more?
What idiocy is this?
Oh do shut up. Show me Thor taking even two or three mjolnir strikes to the head and not crumpling in a heap.
Heck, even Odin Force Thor crumpled in a heap with three shots from mjolnir.
So six panels involving a losing an eyeblast battle and a charge into a punch is a "lengthy battle" with PCyclops? Lol lol lol...
And the rest is Gladz getting the utter shiet kicked out of him.
Reading fail. Pinky finger? The hammer swing was forcibly stopped by PClops before it even connected?
Again reading fail. The single panel with PClossus and PMagik was to describe Cap's statement to Spidey of Thor being captured. In fact it was probably a lengthy battle since it involved multiple Avengers finally escaping the Phoenix users. Worse yet is you used a cropped scan leaving out the conversation between Cap and Spidey that continued on in the next page.
The sad thing for you is for all the worf effect Thor was forced into during AvX, he still had better showings when compared to Gladz. He took on PNamor and Rachel for most of a comic. Heck he fought PEmma for half a book and even smashed her diamond form punting it to space at one point.
And then there's even a showing which literally takes a big dump on anything Gladz did during AvX. Like ko'ing the entirety of the PF and hitting it so hard that it gets punted planetary distances. Hell he fought from the Eridani System which was light years away all the way to the earth's moon.
Fail.. Again.. Are you talking about Tony's specifically designed and painstakingly PREPPED armor to do just that. El oh el on you.
He caused a planetary level stroke on the host(jean) which ultimately splintered the phoenix force.
Again it is utterly ridiculous to go the route of lowballing the Phoenix. Desperation indeed.
This statement lacks thought considering we are talking about a medium where the good guy often gets taken down early in the story only to rise up later and beat the villain. Usually accomplished when taking off the kid gloves and no linger holding back. I can show u countless examples from Thor, but that would derail the main subject of this thread. Get me brah?
Read above and let it sink in.
Your own scan says "terrible irresistible strength struggles against unrelenting immovable muscle" before the ground gave way. Need I say more. http://s388.photobucket.com/user/On...ator02.jpg.html
That is a strength stalemate against a lesser Thor. Claiming it something other than that is quite frankly dumb.
Why continue to go off into more tangents? I get you are the lowball and smokescreen king, but this is getting ridiculous. You did this to yourself. No one's fault you can't come up with anything coherent after your misstep. Stick to the main subject.
Thor has taken worse punishment. Heck his rogues gallery has an impossibly powerful Odin wrought uru metal monster. He's taken multiple blows worse than what Gladz has gone through from this monster and at times even took Mjolnir shots in the process. Smh... Quit with the smokescreens.
You've got nothing. Everyone knows this and you know this hence all the red herrings, the smokescreens, and going off into tangents to escape the main issues.
Same goes for classic Hype. For a guy that always goes around screaming "feats over statements feats over statements", you sure do look like a hypocrite. So easy to turn this around on you. You haven't changed.
Still here waiting on proof that Gladz being clearly stronger and Hype as a clear equal. Come at me with more smokescreens and avoid the main issue. I need a good laugh.
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Glads and Thor are near physical peers when Thor has Mjolnir. Without Mjolnir Glads is physically superior.
Him bashing a planet to pieces with his bare hands is greater than anything Thor has done strength wise. Glads going toe to toe with Cyke is greater than anything Thor has done strength wise.
Masterson had the full power of Thor as reminded again in the same comic. I'd like to know how he was a "lesser thor".
Hahaha, this is just lulzworthy. You are simply refusing to accept any showing for Thor because "he has taken far more". That's not how it works idiot.
Ah, the ol as dirt "everyone knows it."
Keep apologizing for Thor. Its amusing.
So now a statement from Thor means nothing? I'd like to see where Hyperion is shown weaker than Thor though. Just one scene.
Haha, this guy and his excuses. Already posted the proof. Its not my fault if you just bury your head into sand and ignore everything.
Conscious? Gladiator was basically out on his feet.. They basically were pounding on a guy who was non responsive. God you love to be corrected.
Wow! You are the absolute worst at reading scans. He telekinetically stopped the swing. It never connected. Heck the page prior he telekinetically removed Stark's armor. Jesus Christ you are awful.
I already explained it to you. I'm not in the mood to have to continuously hold your hand through every scan. Even worse is you used a scan that should have explained this had you not cropped it. You fail at everything.
Lol. He ultimately had no effect. What did you expect? It was a Phoenix user he was up against and they pretty much were wrecking everybody. But during the fight, he was able to knock down PNamor and had a brief blast stalemate.
Thor drew blood from PNamor the same comic Rulk and Thing did u doof.
He smacked the Phoenix multiple planetary distances while knocking it out for crying out loud! And survived having to fight it from light years away all the way to the earth's moon.
What a dumb way to dismiss feats. What's next? You going to start claiming 1/5 of the Phoenix > full Phoenix force? Utterly dumb.
What part of specifically PREPPED armor is not computing here. Abhilowball to the fullest.
For a host it is.
Lol. You brought up its durability I didn't. I'm simply pointing out that as a whole it is more powerful than a fifth of it. This is a muck of your own doing.
I'd like to know why are you using faulty reasoning and diverging from the main argument instead of proving and backing up your statement with feats.
Riiight. Desperation... And yet you are the one scrounging for low showings. You notice I haven't posted any low showing for Gladiator?
Hell he's stalemated Herc in multiple arm wrestling matches. And you know damn well Herc is far beyond IM. Not to mention one of their matches produced sufficient force to throw the planet they were on out of orbit.
You really do fit the moniker of Abhilowball. It's your go to move when cornered.
It's like saying any old Kryptonian is equal to Superman. Again you fail hard.
You are mistaken. You are clinging on to useless showings and even bringing up low showings in hopes to smokescreen. You are transparent.
Nothing here of substance. Concession accepted.
Dude.. Thor's feat history is pretty self explanatory. I never said Thor was far stronger. My stance is though Hype is a peer, Thor's strength feats trumps his hence the edge.
Now where is your proof? Where are these feats? Don't be a coward as your white knight used to say.
Not when your proof was shot down with a comparable showing that takes a huge dump on it. Not when your proof is bringing up low showings. Not when your proof are red herrings designed to muddy the waters in hopes of escaping the real issue.
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Lol.. It's right there on your own scan. Gladiator was basically a non responsive punching bag after the massive blow PClossus gave him. His face was already disfigured and they kept beating him mercilessly after without a hint of getting back up. http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/27068988/DXI5z.jpg.html
Hell the close up panel even shows PClops forcibly stopped the swing even before making contact. Jesus Christ the denial here is too much. There's not even a sound effect for making contact with your claim of PClops's pinky stopping the swing. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...28036-24177.jpg
He stopped IM and Thor with TK. Period end of story. Any other description is flat out denial of proof.
Abhi. You used a cropped scan that described what that panel was about. It was describing Cap's statement to Spidey that Thor was captured during a battle that involved multiple Avengers. You claiming he got one shotted is pure speculation because it was never fully shown how the fight went down. Have some common sense.
Read Avengers #29 AvX. The point was he battled PNamor and Rachel for much of the comic. And did I say Rachel was had amp from the Phoenix?
Again read the comic. He drew blood in the same comic. You keep spouting things that are incorrect. "Gladz made Pclops bleed." "Thing are blood from PNamor, but Thor didn't." Smh... Seriously why am I even entertaining these points of yours when it is thrown out there by you just to run away from the main issue?
Lol. Way to lowball feats. He hit with enough force to punt it multiple planetary distances and knocked it out in the process.
Britain did better?
You read it here first folks. 1/5 of the PF is greater than all of the PF.
Are u serious? Do you know how effective super geniuses are with PREP? Hell it served it's purpose and furthered the story. How do you think the P5 were created?
Xorn had the power source of a white sun. He's not lightweight. It's not hard to understand.
Dent? I just finished telling you that he not only smashed PEmma's DIAMOND FORM to pieces, he punted it out of earth! Her regular diamond form alone is strong as hell. Seriously are you purposely ignoring posts?
Why would he need to end the whole event by himself? It's a massive team cooperation and he wasn't even the central figure. He was more tertiary if anything. Do you know how boring it would have been if he went and destroyed the PF by himself?
You are posting feats that doesn't even key in on the main subject. Not only are you doing this, your off the wall interpretations are so ridiculous way off that you can't even be taken seriously. Plus you are adding low showings to boot. How dumb is that?
And yet Thor's average absolutely blows Gladiator's out of the water.
No. You brought up low showings. Why don't you focus on Gladiator's strength feats instead of continuing with smokescreens.
Herc being portrayed as Thor's equal(though imo Thor has a slightly better history) does not have anything to do with Gladiator's strength. Stop with these questions.
Umm no. You brought up a low showing which I called out. Notice you're the only one who did so.
Lol... Care to prove Masterson is Thor's equal? You know how that will end.
No not crying. Calling you out on your bullshiet.
And I'm simply saying not by feats which you continue to run from.
I actually do have current Hyperion a slight notch above Thor. He is a peer and is not far and away stronger.
Fixated? This coming from a guy who continuously touts a certain someone's feat history? With how many times you have shown how much of a hypocrite you are in this thread, it's funny how you are in any form of disagreement at all. Keep contradicting yourself.
More reading incomprehension. He never stated that he hits harder than Mangog. He was remarking on Hype's strength by claiming that how rarely Mjolnir gets knocked away from him whether it be someone as strong as Mangog or the "merest mortal". Wow fail... Just wow.
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Dude. PClossus is holding him up through his cape. He's barely even conscious if at all. Throwing a punch? Lol...
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha, the sheer idiocy and desperation is palpable here.
He is stopping the hammer by his finger. Claiming that there is no sound effect to denote it a TK feat is like h1a8 level idiocy.
Damn, you're dumb.
Lol.. Do you know how bad you would lose if a poll was taken? You continue to dig yourself a deeper hole.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's just straight BS.
Nice tears though.
It's a splash page you goof. That's the only scene of the fight.
To claim that there was a longer fight is sheer idiocy. You're obviously making new records of it.
Again your reading incomprehension and or outright denial tactics knows no bounds. So your proof is one panel of a fight that was not even fully shown. The only other thing associated was Cap's conversation with Spidey alluding to the common sense reasoning of a larger fight that involved multiple characters. And you used a cropped scan to make mayters worse. Smh... So lemme ask you. Did Blue Marvel one shot Pagan in my comparative example?
Originally posted by abhilegend
He got beat up by Rachel and Namor. There was no fight per say. That's it.
Did you read the same comic or the Bizarro version? Namor straight up no sold a suckershot from Thor.
Yeah, you're just BSing. Should I expect it for 20 pages more before you concede?
Not going to waste my time posting. You've already shown yourself to misinterpret, lie, and deny on panel proof.
And yes. He drew blood from PNamor in the book Rulk and Thing did. Look it up.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's just repeating what you said. Way to go.
Yes, he didn't got oneshotted.
Yes. Until you're no longer butthurt about it.
Lol... Claiming that Brian performed better is just about as dumb as one can get. Who was the only one who kept going t the Phoenix?
Hell in the space team's final gambit, Thor was the only one left which led to a feat that is a source of butthurt for you. http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/118...ne_005.jpg.html
Originally posted by abhilegend
In durability as per the comics? Certainly.
I'd like to see why Thor wasn't even able to affect Phoenix Five.
Name one "buster" armor other than Phoenix buster that actually worked.
Nothing about knocking out the PF and sending it planetary distances isn't really about durability. I'm simply highlighting Thor's strength and power as compared to the best showing of Gladz in the same story. You are muddying the waters here because you are quite frankly stuck in a corner you made for yourself.
Lol.. Affect the P5? He smashed one of their bodies into a million pieces and punted out of the earth for crying out loud. Stop with these irrelevant questions.
I'm not going into another tangent with this ridiculous question. Accept the fact that Tony used a PREPPED weapon that splintered the PF, bit ultimately failed its purpose.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's nice. He still killed PF with a planetary stroke. Keep running from it.
He killed the host, not the Phoenix. You can't really kill this entity.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Her diamond form wasn't that durable. How did he fare against Namor or Cyclops or Colossus? Or even Mar-vell?
Heck an arrow from Hawkeye pierced her skin.
Emma flat out humiliated him and told he hits like a girl.
Lol... Now her diamond form backed by the PF is not durable? A part of her power set that alone w/o the PF has great feats of its own. Jesus... If your boy did that on panel you would be wanking it nonstop.
Yes Emma defeated him after reforming from a bazillion pieces. What's your point?
Originally posted by abhilegend
But as you're claiming that he was capable of beating PF by himself, why didn't he just oneshots every Phoenix Five user?
Stop putting words into my mouth. I never said he can beat the Phoenix by himself. He had a feat of briefly knocking it out. That's all.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Again with crying? Do I look like who gives a shit about what you think is low showings or what you think about me?
You're dumber than I thought.
Apparently you do or else you would not continue to post. I was merely pointing out your MO which is pretty well known in these boards.
Originally posted by abhilegend
In your dreams perhaps.
Gladiator by feats and regular portrayal is a peer, but overall just doesn't quite match Thor's. It's not that hard to understand.
Originally posted by abhilegend
The only thing that matters is relative performance.
He, even Hercules isn't equal to Thor in your opinion.
Is anyone equal to Thor in strength IYO? Because your version of Thor doesn't exists.
Relative performance? This coming from a guy who gets a tittie attack when CM or other high end strong men are called Supe's equals when relative performance or statements are brought up. H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E. I take all things into account.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, Masterson being equal to him.
Seems too much like crying.
Feats rarely matter into these contests of strength.
He should be millions of times stronger by feats.
Not by overall feats. He simply isn't.
Again just calling u out on your bs laden comebacks.
Now feats don't matter? Abhi they are the platform for which arguments stand on.
No he wouldn't when you take everything into account. Hype is a peer.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I only go by relative performance.
When you catch me going by space cheese, call me.
Somebody save this. This is gold right here.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, oh the idiocy. Thor flat out says even with Mangog it rarely happens. What do you think the statement means?
Haha, I think it will go for twenty pages more.
Wow. See this is proof that you have an inability to understand scans. Here's what he said after Hype threw a car at him causing him to drop Mjolnir.
Thor - "So mighty is the blow struck by this Hyperion that even mine awesome uru mallet be knocked from mine hand. Something which both rarely happened, whether my foe were Mangog or the merest mortal."
El oh el.
This is not a declarative statement from Thor that Hype is stronger than Mangog. He is merely stating that it's rare for someone to dislodge his hammer from him even when he goes against extremely powerful beings like Mangog. Why did you even go down this route when you know for a fact that Mangog is stronger than Hyperion? Oh Abhi...
Originally posted by abhilegend
The last word which you crave? Not going to happen.
Originally posted by h1a8 Glads and Thor are near physical peers when Thor has Mjolnir. Without Mjolnir Glads is physically superior.
Him bashing a planet to pieces with his bare hands is greater than anything Thor has done strength wise. Glads going toe to toe with Cyke is greater than anything Thor has done strength wise.