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The difficulty is that Beerus used 10% of his power to defeat SSJ2 Vegeta. Who was supposed to be infinitely weaker than SSJG Goku.


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Vegeta WAS infinitely weaker than SSG Goku.

The gaps between 1 (Vegeta), 6 (SSG Goku), 10 (Beerus) and 15 (Whis) on a logarithmic scale are massive: with such a scale, Vegeta is 10% of Beerus, but this translates on a linear scale in a gap of 10 orders of magnitude between the two.

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No, it doesn't. Because SSB Goku is also less than 10% of Beerus according to the last two episodes.


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Based on. When was anything said about Goku being less than 10% of Beerus? If anything... the opposite was mentioned.


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Originally posted by Kento
See, GOKU learned to null the universe destroying punches fighting Beerus. If SSR Goku is weak, and Beerus was lowered to such a low level why doesn't any of the other fights have the same power output though? Like that's one thing I don't get with ssb > ssr. Nobody else has shown Gokus ability to learn that fast. And fighting someone else you'd think would involve having to learn how to null it again.


LOL... just because Goku couldnt control his power while red doesn't mean that everyone else in the God tier cant. Remember, we seen universe threatening punches again during the Beerus and Champa fight but those are two beings that just doesn't care. What writer do you know of will have Goku during every fight threatening the Universe. Comics AND Anime doesn't work like that. Galactus has fought on a planet before with his all and did not even shed the rocks that was underneath him, does that mean he is weaker than Surfer who has shed planets during combat? Think about it.


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No, it doesn't. Because SSB Goku is also less than 10% of Beerus according to the last two episodes.


No.


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No.


Beerus > 10x Kaioken SSB Goku.

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Or Beerus was simply holding back. He did hint to this during the end of Goku and his scuffle.


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That's what Newguy said. Beerus > 10X Kaioken SSB Goku kind of implies he was holding back.


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Just looked through the entire thread again.

What reason is there to believe SSJ God is weaker? Because Blue came later?

Considering Red's time limit, which blue seems to lack, that's not really proof..


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Goku said Blue is more powerful... cant get any clearer than that.


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When did he say that?


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http://aminomailer.com/page/anime/5...than-ssgss-blue

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akira has comfirmed couple of days ago that the super saiyan god (red hair transformation that requires 5 other good heated saiyans)


is stronger than SuperSaiyan God Supersaiyan (blue haired transformation that debuted in fukkatsu no f).

One of the reasons akira gave was that the colour red outmatches the colour blue. This is kinda shocking but it does make sense as in battle of gods goku's pure super saiyan god 80% power was equal to beerus's 60-70%.


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Goku said in DBS. I don't understand why you post something that is probably not legit. Where did Akira say this?


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Goku said in DBS. I don't understand why you post something that is probably not legit. Where did Akira say this?


Posting unsourced, random videos as proof of time freezing, and talking about legit sources? You're one to talk.

He said it in an interview.


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Posting unsourced, random videos as proof of time freezing, and talking about legit sources? You're one to talk.

He said it in an interview.


I posted a clip where it was outright said during the fight against Hit that Hit freeze time. Do I need to post it again?

Where is the interview?


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And who subbed it? And why is it more accurate then the clips from reputable subbers where they call it "time skip"?

You're a biased idiot.


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Holy shit. This garbage is still going on?

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And who subbed it? And why is it more accurate then the clips from reputable subbers where they call it "time skip"?

You're a biased idiot.



All of this preaching and everyone still knows that Goku moved through time stop. You can debate against it for days, you're convincing no one.


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So according to Akira Red>Blue?

Ok, if we really go by that SSR was 60% of 100% Beerus, than probably SSR>SSBx10. But who is to take DB seriously when they are always making something up or when something happened like it never happened, they completely dismiss it.

I know that Akira said that colour red looks stronger than colour blue, nothing said about its power.

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