Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
So has pretty much everyoen and their mother in comcis
Luke Cagesays high. So does kaine. Spider woman also sends her greetings. Beast hoeps for recognition. Venom too sends wishes. onega Red send his gretting card. US Agent too. grey gargoyle sends his greetings
Blade, Wolverine,Cap, Daredevil, all are below Spdiey and have much better h2h feats
What a bloody nonsense. Wolverine has superhuman proven stats, for your one peak human handbook I can provide 3 saying the opposite
Heck, recently Reed richards said Wolverine has enhanced strength without the adamantium skeleton or HF
Also, how about 3 times when matt got the better of him?
Ha ha,you are kidding me right? Firelord's a tough cookie for sure, but there are so many guys above him. Wolverine has wrecked Hercules, who destroyed Firelord h2h easier than spiderman did. He has oneshotted Kid Gladiator with a pressure point. Captain America has straight up stomped Fafnir, a Thor villain who Thor always needed prep or luck to beat. Wolverine hasmade minoatur, someone who hercules could brely hurt, bleed with a headbutt
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Yes. and wolverine has oneshotted spiderman and two-shotted kaine, and has made SpiderMan cry out in pain with a tap of his finger
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Webbing that Mr. bullet deflecting"radar sense" Matt Murdoch couldn't avoid. Parker also had his Spider Sense muted.
And Spidey's lowballed more then anybody. Everyone treats him like a street, when he's well, well above that.
Spiderman is a low end speedster, with enough strength to knock Captain America's head clear off his body. Creed and Logan have their damage soak over him, but that's about it..
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I don't understand why you replied to my post with that. It's in no way related to my post in which I was merely correcting two statements made by other posters.
But for the record - Wolverine has never one-shotted Spider-man during a fight. Unless you want to count cheap shots in a forum fight or a sparring match where he used claws (which aren't allowed in this thread). Kaine defeated Wolverine in a fight. Logan has never two shotted Kaine in an actual fight. Both of them are faster and stronger than Wolverine and it has always been the case in the comics. Flicking is irrelevant here. And it's a two way street. Logan has taken hits from people stronger than Spider-man. Spider-man has knocked out people who are tougher to knock out than Wolverine. And Spider Ock (who is basically a watered down version of Peter) has knocked out Wolverine himself.
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And Logan has taken down or hurt guys Spider Man struggled to, easily. My point was that Logan does not need his claws to hang or defeat those of Spidey's class, despite them being faster and stronger. Also, I was posting it more as a reply to cdtm and quoted you so that the points are side by side
And to note, it was when the Other controlled Kaine that he took down Wolverine, and the fight was supposed to be a pretend-fight. Also, considering that watered-down version of Peter got destroyed by Kaine in a fight where Spock was bloodlusted and sucker punched him, Wolverine KOing Kaine with two punches that Kaine knew were coming is impressive
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The fight was a ruse, similar as Mr X's fight with Paladin and Black Widow.
Yeah... adrenaline must've still been flowing through him.
In other instance, he got knocked down on his ass with a single punch. Not as impressive as the flash knockout, but still. And remember - Frank couldn't even budge Spidey with his punches last time they fought...
- Frank is stronger than post-Red Room Super Soldier Serum retcon Black Widow.
You say "so" like being faster then Creed isn't an advantage at all. In a straight up fight Creed is pretty much the only person in this fight who can fight Spiderman. Beast is too slow IMO and Captain America sure as hell can't do it. I think Creed's own strength and healing factor is what prevents Spidey from winning.
Hmm? It sounds like you just essentially said most comic characters are bullet timers. This isn't true. A lot of comic characters can aim dodge bullets, but that doesn't mean they are legit bullet timers.
For example Batgirl was a legit bullet timer..and her speed was so much greater then Batmans(who is an aim dodger) that she was able to hit him so quickly he didn't even realize she'd thrown a punch until he suddenly felt his nose bleeding.
It's not a high end feat IMO. You are confusing high end feats with feats that are total nonsense. If your "high end" feat is actually in reality just a very low end feat for the person you were fighting against..it's not much of a feat at all. Let me give you an example: If Superman is shown easily juggling multiple planets that is a high end feat. It's he's shown destroying a friggin galaxy with one punch that is a nonsense feat.
Also I've actually read the comic issue in question. Spider-Man literally at one point says "Not even a herald of Galactus could survive an explosion that takes out several city blocks" or something to that effect lol. Remember these people can fly through stars, but Spider-Man thinks apparently *none* of them could survive an explosion of that magnitude. Everything about that comic was retarded. If the comic was transformed into human form there wouldn't be any buses short enough to accommodate this person. It should not be something to be held up as proof of what Spider-Man is capable of. All the feat is good for is mocking it and all around laughing at the stupidity of it.
Let's all point and laugh at the stupidity of Spider-Man/the writers. *Points*
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I am not doubting Logan's ability to hurt metas. And Logan has taken down guys Spider-man struggled with true, but Spider-man too has taken down guys Wolverine struggled with. It is also a two way street. Spider-man has taken hits (including adamantium) that are times stronger than Wolverine's hits and kept on fighting.
Kaine being influenced by the Other is not a power up, that's Kaine's default these days and Spider-man (Pete) has bested him before. The fight with Logan wasn't a pretend-fight. We should be going by fights. Sparring matches and instances where characters are not fighting back/getting cheap shotted aren't a good measuring stick for forum fights.
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Anyone ever notice that Marvel routinely has characters being able to physically hang with people waaaaay outside their weight class?
Spider-Man has taken on everyone from the Hulk to Juggernaut and not been turned into a fine red mist upon getting punched by them.
Does the guy have some kind of secret super power we don't know about? Whenever he gets witnin 5 feet of a class 100 his durability seems to suddenly sky rocket. Sort of like whenever Batman seems to get within a certain distance of powerful characters everyones IQ suddenly drops into the single digits.
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Nice scan. Makes Spidey look like more of a monster.
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One scan has Wolverine booting him in the nuts and the other one has friggin Daredevil KO'ing him. That is the shittiest monster ever.
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That's not what happened. They had a sparring fight and he berates her that she has got sloppy and suddenly coughs up some blood which denotes she has hit him quite hard before that.
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