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robtardshit
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@Sel https://comicvine.gamespot.com/foru...yth209-1813906/




I'll consider it. Half the reason I was actually doing that though was it started because Wollf was calling me out up and down the forum. I am seriously tempted to debate ILS, but I've discussed Kotor/Kotor II with him in the past and I know how he views it, that debate will go nowhere.

@ILS, any different one you want to do?


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respond to me

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Originally posted by Selenial
I'll consider it. Half the reason I was actually doing that though was it started because Wollf was calling me out up and down the forum.


Was I? I'm sorry, then. I didn't realize I was being antagonizing, and I honestly don't remember saying much outside our own debates, but if I did then I apologize.


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Originally posted by Selenial


I'll consider it. Half the reason I was actually doing that though was it started because Wollf was calling me out up and down the forum. I am seriously tempted to debate ILS, but I've discussed Kotor/Kotor II with him in the past and I know how he views it, that debate will go nowhere.

@ILS, any different one you want to do?
I'm actually willing to accept the full might of your team, I just think the one Wollf was repping seriously outdo them in a feats comparison.

But I understand if you don't want to necro an old debate. Are there any characters you want to use in particular?


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Tier 10 - Zonama Sekots
- ILS
- JKBart
- Nai
- Ant

Tier 9 - Lukes
- Skillz
- NewGuy1995
- Nova
- Selenial
- WollfMyth

Tier 8 - Krayts
- Intrepid
- S_W_Legend
- Ursumeles
- Benisboybling

Tier 7 - Kenobis
- Tempest
- Ellimist
- AncientPower
- JediXMan
- Zenwolf
- Aurbere
- Azronger

Tier 6 - Qui-Gons
- FreshestDice
- DMB
- Sinious
- Theronn_Solo
- Vivas
- Muser
- DarkDefender
- Ziggy

Tier 5 - Luminaras
- King Joker
- Fated Extasy
- Kurk
- Quanchi

Tier 4 - Tionnas
- Stigma
- Carthage
- SirFizzWhizz
- CSGO_Zoltan
- Erkan12
- Nephthys
- LordOfTheLight

Tier 3 - Clone troopers
- Jmanghan

Tier 2 - Droids
- Jensaarai1

Tier 1 - bantha poodoo
- Robtard

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ils > deronn laughing out loud

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and beni > ap laughing out loud laughing out loud

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stfu go suck robtards cock u parody of me lol

i bet you are robtard he is a psycho

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Tier 10 - Zonama Sekots
- ILS
- JKBart
- Nai
- Ant

Tier 9 - Lukes
- Skillz
- NewGuy1995
- Nova
- Selenial
- WollfMyth

Tier 8 - Krayts
- Intrepid
- S_W_Legend
- Ursumeles
- Benisboybling

Tier 7 - Kenobis
- Tempest
- Ellimist
- AncientPower
- JediXMan
- Zenwolf
- Aurbere
- Azronger
- Freedon Nadd

Tier 6 - Qui-Gons
- FreshestDice
- DMB
- Sinious
- Theronn_Solo
- Vivas
- Muser
- DarkDefender
- Ziggy

Tier 5 - Luminaras
- King Joker
- Fated Extasy
- Kurk
- Quanchi

Tier 4 - Tionnas
- Stigma
- Carthage
- SirFizzWhizz
- CSGO_Zoltan
- Erkan12
- Nephthys
- LordOfTheLight

Tier 3 - Clone troopers
- Jmanghan

Tier 2 - Droids
- Jensaarai1

Tier 1 - bantha poodoo
- Robtard


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Fated Xtasy
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Emperordmb
IIRC the Sas one never finished and the Bantha one never finished.


/shrug.

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Originally posted by |King Joker|
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Aww, don't be like that, baby, come over here and fight me :3


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@Fated under Ellimist's system, I'd say you're anywhere between Decent to Good. I predict if you were more judicious with what arguments you choose to pursue and what ones are worth abandoning, rather than simply trying to prove that your favoured character is as powerful as feasibly possible, you could jump past Good.

I've always had the impression, much like with Bantha, that you're only concerned with making sure character X is seen as being as powerful as possible, and given that the characters you represent tend to be relatively weak compared to the higher-profile opponents they're matched with, you're sort of shooting yourself in the foot. You end up being forced to stretch your arguments beyond their means in order to win.

Maybe try debating characters you have no investment in and are quite powerful, and you'll see some gainz.


Yeah, I agree with all of that, thanks for your feedback. I just get bored of seeing the same debate, again, and again. Hence why I choose to debate unknowns. But thanks again for your feedback bruh.


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NewGuy01
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ILS - in addition to being a great wordsmith, he picks up on concepts and formulates complex arguments very quickly and effectively, both inside and outside of Star Wars. Seldom commits blunders.


He's one of the most genuinely open-minded posters, too. It's great to see he's been getting recognition. thumb up

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I'd insert myself here but YMMV, when I put focus and effort in I think my grasp of logical argumentation on a precise and technical level is perhaps the best on KMC


Distasteful horn-tooting aside, I suppose it's not impossible. Then again, like Zoltan pointed out recently, it doesn't exactly take a genius to be in the running for "best technical debater on KMC" right now. Very few here actually have a talent for it, and those that do rarely participate.

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Ant - one of the most insightful people on this list with great success in swaying opinion (usually) and elite rhetoric, just can commit logical blunders and not grasp more technical concepts like some of the higher tiers.


I think most would agree that he's not quite the cream of the crop as a wordsmith or as a logician, but I think he warrants an elite ranking regardless. Ant's strength is that he's extremely obsessive and detail-oriented; he's the kind of guy that reads through five or six books just on the opponent's character before a debate to find out what sorts of arguments he might run into, their context, and how they might be rebutted. Being a diligent researcher is an important part of being successful in a debate.

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Selenial - see Joker


Understandable, she never really made her mark on KMC. As someone who knows her, though, I'd vouch for her being at least a tier higher. Then again, I'd say the same for Beni. Actually, why even make a separate tier just for them?


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NewGuy01
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i change my mind, ant deserves cringe tier tbh


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Nai
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Originally posted by The Ellimist
Nai - would be upper elite or even legendary in terms of rhetorical power and ability to generate complex arguments, but those complex arguments can contain naked sophistry so he's hard to place.


*points at his user title*

Why can't you people just read?

And do I get some bonus points for not even using my primary language here?


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You're so fluent its easy to forget tbh. But yes.


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quanchi112
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Nai
*points at his user title*

Why can't you people just read?

And do I get some bonus points for not even using my primary language here?
You are cowardly so you get points taken away for that. You're also dishonest.


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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Welcome, Freedon.

I admit that you provide thought-provoking points at times. There is a degree of originality in your arguments. You are underappreciated.


Not going to lie, legitimately laughed out loud at this. Thread that keeps on giving.

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