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Because Naruto definitely used a kekkai genkai sealing jutsu on the Ten-Tails+9 bijuu,


Lol.

Obtaining the power of the ten bodies of the tailed beasts is the same as owning the power of the Sage of Six Paths. It's also accompanied by black orbs that are similar to the "Tailed Beast Ball".

When you combine the Biju fragments, you get Six Paths Chakra. That, along with Naruto being a transmigrant, is why Hagoromo appeared before him to begin with.

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Lol.

Obtaining the power of the ten bodies of the tailed beasts is the same as owning the power of the Sage of Six Paths. It's also accompanied by black orbs that are similar to the "Tailed Beast Ball".

When you combine the Biju fragments, you get Six Paths Chakra. That, along with Naruto being a transmigrant, is why Hagoromo appeared before him to begin with.


Did you miss the word 'ten' (not to mention the rest of the paragraph)? How many bijuu fragments did Naruto have? Did he at any point have the TSB before activating his chakra cloak?

Yes, except Naruto never combined the fragments into the Ten-Tails' chakra. He had just the 9 before meeting Hagoromo. Where exactly did he combine the fragments and unlock Six Paths chakra just prior to meeting Hagoromo?

The databook explicitly states that 'Six Paths Sage Mode', a 'state', was given to Naruto by Hagoromo. He is using the bijuus' chakra to enhance SPSM with the chakra cloak (which is when he gets the TSB and Six Paths Senjutsu is brought up), but the state was still given to him by Hagoromo as per the databook.

Coffin Seal is a different technique involving the actual Ten-Tails and Naruto is (obviously) not listed as a user.

You are taking one sentence out of context and ignoring almost everything else, including the paragraph that contains an explicit statement on how Naruto acquired the very ability you are arguing about.


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Did you miss the word 'ten'


The tenth is just the nine together in the Gedo Mazou.

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Did he at any point have the TSB before activating his chakra cloak?


Precisely? Isn't the fact that TSB only appear once he activates the Biju cloak evidence in of itself that Naruto's SPSM is tied with his Biju power?

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Where exactly did he combine the fragments and unlock Six Paths chakra just prior to meeting Hagoromo?


Him meeting Hagoromo in of itself was a result of him acquiring that chakra.

During his various near-death experiences earlier in the show, the Sage didn't appear before Naruto. He didn't even appear before him that time until Minato/Obito sealed Shukaku/Gyuki/Kurama into him. He appeared before Sasuke only after Sasuke received chakra from Asura's past reincarnation. These are tried and true methods of unlocking Hagoromo's chakra.

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The databook explicitly states that 'Six Paths Sage Mode', a 'state', was given to Naruto by Hagoromo.


Judging from the paragraph you cited, though, the SPSM being described in the datebook is unique to Naruto; it possesses properties that Madara and Obito never had, and cites Light Style abilities.

However, we know that they still both achieved Six Paths Senjutsu Chakra and TSB just by virtue of being the Juubi's Jinchuuriki, even if they didn't possess the "SPSM" form specifically.

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Coffin Seal is a different technique involving the actual Ten-Tails and Naruto is (obviously) not listed as a user.


I don't know why you're stuck on this, I never said Naruto could use the Coffin Seal. The Coffin Seal is a method of subjugating the Ten Tails; Naruto was willingly given chakra by the Tailed Beasts.

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Bump; according to Shikamaru, Obito became "a pillar of the Ten Tails" and possessed power rivaling the Sage of the Six Paths. He goes on to say that Naruto, as the Jinchuriki of all nine tailed beasts, could also be considered a pillar of the Ten Tails, and still possesses some of the Sage's power as of the blank period. Thoughts? Does this mean that Naruto has retained part of Hagoromo's Six Paths Sage power, or that he's retained all of it?


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