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Tulak Hord, Aloysius Kallig and Darth Nox vs. Luke Skywalker

1. Force
2. Sabers
3. All-out

Peak performance (non-oneness) Luke


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1) Probably team in a hard fight. Tulak is somewhere in Luke's stratosphere, same with Nox. Kallig is outmatched, but the first two can match Luke on their own, with the third player on the field and more distraction for Luke, the team can win 6/10.

2) Team pretty decisively. I don't think prime Luke is far superior to Yoda, possibly a notch, and Tulak is probably a small notch beneath Yoda. Add in Nox and Kallig and it's pretty clear who wins. Team 8-9/10.

3) Pretty much the same as sabers, but Luke's force superiority narrows it down slightly. Team 7/10?


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Lol


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What kek?


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Luke slaughters them one-handed. 0/10 fail


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Your avatar would be ashamed of you


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Kallig and Hord were supposed to be rivals in power. Nox is a worthy heir to Hord, and that's after being amped by five ghosts to be sub-below Revan level.

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Originally posted by The Ellimist
Luke slaughters them one-handed. 0/10 fail


Lel nope. How in the hell is Luke so superior to guy on the level of Yoda in combat to stomp him, his rival (prolly at least somewhat comparable, like Obi-Wan to Plo Koon I guess) and Nox who we all know?


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Nah Tulak ain't Yoda level. Tulak is trash. Tulak couldn't even suck Yoda's dick.


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Kallig and Hord were supposed to be rivals in power. Nox is a worthy heir to Hord, and that's after being amped by five ghosts to be sub-below Revan level.


Going by that logic, Nox is comparable to a guy who tore capital ships out of the sky and slaughtered armies of Jedi. So I guess Revan must be way the **** higher than you think.


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I think we've done a good job of beating that "tore capital ships out of the sky" BS. And the Exile has slaughtered armies of sith lol.


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It doesn't matter, Khem is the one "obviously" saying Nox is comparable to Hord and he thinks Hord did those things. He's been by Nox's side the whole story and his whole life is about fighting Force Users and being a warrior, so his judgement of Nox's skills at least is pretty dang reliable.

The Exile hasn't fought an actual army of them on the battlefield. Big difference.


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I'm not saying he didn't do it, I'm saying that it isn't really as impressive as you think it is. It's like Galen Marek's star destroyer feat, except that he did it with far, far, far more time, to a far, far, far smaller ship.

Um, yeah she pretty much did, lol.


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You don't know how much time he used and you don't pull a ship out of the air thats already falling, so obviously that isn't what happened. Don't make shit up. erm

No, she didn't.


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Hey it's another "nah you're wrong i'm right despite my lack of argument" thread!

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"you don't know..." that seems to be your problem, since it's your feat. laughing

The Exile fought a very large concentration of dark jedi at the same time. Whether they called themselves an army is irrelevant.


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"you don't know..." that seems to be your problem, since it's your feat. laughing

The Exile fought a very large concentration of dark jedi at the same time. Whether they called themselves an army is irrelevant.


My problem is you blatantly lying. Pulling a capital ship out of the air is massively impressive regardless of the speculation of him prepping. He'd have to overpower the engines holding it in the sky, a monstrous feat.

No, she didn't. She fought them in an academy, going from room to room and fighting them in groups. That's not a battlefield or an army sieging a stronghold.


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My problem is you blatantly lying.


If he pulled it out of orbit, he would be manipulating it with significantly more time to spare than what Marek had.

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Pulling a capital ship out of the air is massively impressive regardless of the speculation of him prepping. He'd have to overpower the engines holding it in the sky, a monstrous feat.


Prove that the engines were running. You don't need engines to keep a ship in orbit, lol.

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No, she didn't. She fought them in an academy, going from room to room and fighting them in groups. That's not a battlefield or an army sieging a stronghold.


How does this change anything? There are only so many melee combatants that can surround and attack you at the same time; even Anakin and Obi Wan were sort of underperforming against Dooku from this basic reality.

And what makes you think that the Jedi were in some sort of formation optimized for fighting one combatant, rather than spread out around a settlement like they were conducting a siege...which they were? Literally the only difference is the presence of walls and doors.


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How the **** would he pull a ship out of orbit? You can't even see things in orbit, lol. Also, if he did pull it out of orbit obviously the crew would have ample time to start the engines. Not that I have any idea where orbit is coming from. Orbit isn't exactly the sky, its space.

Jedi and Sith aren't just melee combatants. And by going from room to room it's doubtful they'd be able to surround you since you'd be attacking their positions. Going from room to room you're taking them on a bit at a time and can recover and heal. On a battlefield the Jedi could surround Hord and apply constant pressure, replacing dead Knights with new ones. And even if they were in camp they'd have more than enough time and opportunity to mass and attack.


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How the **** would he pull a ship out of orbit? You can't even see things in orbit, lol.


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So Tulak needs line of sight to use his Force abilities? Thanks for the note, Tulak < ANH Luke confirmed.

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Also, if he did pull it out of orbit obviously the crew would have ample time to start the engines. Not that I have any idea where orbit is coming from. Orbit isn't exactly the sky, its space.


It's not necessarily space, nor is the line between "sky" and "space" pretty clear, particularly when people are speaking colloquially. And you have no idea what condition the ship was in, what condition the crew was in, whether Tulak assaulted the crew first, etc.

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Jedi and Sith aren't just melee combatants.


Which establishes a distinction...how? If anything it just removes it, because it's not like walls prevent people from using the Force.

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And by going from room to room it's doubtful they'd be able to surround you since you'd be attacking their positions.


This doesn't make any sense. You're attacking their positions, but a room is still large enough that they could surround you to a sufficient capacity.

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And by going from room to room you're taking them on a bit at a time and can recover and heal.


So it's a stamina feat, gotcha.

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On a battlefield the Jedi could surround Hord and apply constant pressure, replacing dead Knights with new ones.


Why couldn't they do this against Traya? It's not like they weren't aware of her presence; they could easily crowd her in, the difference with there being walls is marginal, lol.

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And even if they were in camp they'd have more than enough time and opportunity to mass and attack.


Whereas the korriban academy couldn't, because there were indestructible walls. thumb up


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