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Shaak Ti vs. Darth Vader
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XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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Ahsoka isn't Galen, but neither is Ti. smile


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Is Ahsoka peak!Galen level? No. Felucia!Galen? Yes, and better.


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Yeah Galen was kinda increasing physically, in the Force, and in skill, all throughout the novel tbh, all of which feed into lightsaber combat (I should think so since much of the trouble he had with Ti was phyiscal tbh).


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@Joker: Well if you're comparing feats, good fugging luck proving that. smile


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@Joker: Well if you're comparing feats, good fugging luck proving that. smile
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Nah, for real tho, Galen's got some unholy feats of power even prior to facing Ti. smile


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I'm well aware. smile


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The fact that no one's brought them up here is indicative of retardation. smile


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Probably, but shut up and don't give them ideas. smile


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Since Shaak Ti is roughly as powerful as one Magnaguard I'm going to go ahead and say she wins.


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Since Shaak Ti is roughly as powerful as one Magnaguard I'm going to go ahead and say she wins.


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Puts up a better fight than Ahsoka tho smile


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What?

He didn't markedly improve anywhere before facing Vader, that I know of. The only quotes about progression seem to point to him honing power, not growing in it or saber skill. Shaak Ti was like his last trying test before the whole betrayal arc.

Got any quotes for this? I hope you're not referring to the Nar Shaddaa stuff.

Edit: Joker you seem to be insinuating Ahsoka is Galen Marek's equal, is that what you're saying?


I'd assume that it's a progressive thing throughout the game/novel/comic, partly because he's a video game Force-sensitive character and they all progress in that way, but also given his struggles with Kota & Paratus earlier in the game. The one that had trouble with Kota is certainly not keeping up with Vader. Shaak fits somewhere in the middle of my perceived progression arc, so her being able to outskill Galen at that point only implies that she can pull off an Ahsoka, not better, IMO.

And in fairness, growth in power does tend to coincide with growth in skill. And as I said, most video game characters behave that way.

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There's multiple quotes saying how Galen improved after Felucia at various points in skill, power, and physical ability.


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Yeah, I don't buy this argument that because Shaak did so well against Felucia Galen, she is > Ahsoka as of Rebels.

During that fight, Shaak had absolutely everything going for her, and she still got her ass handed to her by a Galen who was not in his prime.

The felucians, the environment, Shaak's tactics, etc. do not hold up as a fair 1v1 fight against Galen. Ahsoka did well against Vader in Rebels, which counts for more than what Shaak did against a pre-peak Galen with basically all of Felucia aiding her, tbh.


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In the novel Ti is owning him the whole fight and pretty much hands him the win because she juuust couldn't overwhelm him. In the actual game he does kick the shit out of her like he does in every fight with those quick time events.


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Well, what's higher canon? The novel or the game?

I haven't read TFU novel, to be frank. Does Shaak own Galen via the felucians and the environment, besides her own power?


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The game imo. It's the primary, original source.

She owns him in sabers straight up I believe. In fact, Galen resorts to using the environment just to survive against her. He starts shocking the Sarlacc with lightning to unbalance her footing and ripping up teeth to throw at her in order to just stay the hell away from her before she clowns him.


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