I think I still like Dawn the best of the Trilogy, but this is a brilliantly done film, particularly in how it progresses toward the original films. There's some little references that point toward the first two original films at least. I know the director was influenced a lot by Beneath the Planet of the Apes. So there are Alpha and Omega symbols on the traitor apes and weapons, etc. And there's some explanation for how the humans can't talk.
If I was to rate the Trilogy:
Rise - 8/10
Dawn - 10/10
War - 9/10
Something like that. I hope the filmmakers continue with this series somehow.
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Watched it. Good film. However the title I believe misled a tad. [SPOILER - highlight to read]: It seemed mostly a prison movie. The big war that came up by the end was between two human factions. The apes were caught in the middle and just wanted to GTFO. The title should've been Prison or Confinement of the Planet of the Apes honestly.
She makes some good points. She hates the last two thirds of the film. For example I remember wondering [SPOILER - highlight to read]: why the Colonel didn't kill Caesar when that was his intension at the beginning of the film. Also I kind of agree that having the Colonel as some [SPOILER - highlight to read]: rogue nut-job missed a big opportunity for the meeting of he and Caesar as two great war leaders talking. Also the fact that Woody Harrelson isn't particularly charismatic, so not sure why they were all following him. But some of her complaints are a little petty, like [SPOILER - highlight to read]: the death of Caesar. To me that puts nice punctuation at the end of the trilogy. And I can see both sides on one issue: [SPOILER - highlight to read]: the fact that the movie doesn't really highlight much actual combat between man and apes. It's the apes caught in the middle of man vs man. On the one hand that's a nice little twist in expectations, but at the same time it feels like the prequels to this world needs an all-out war between man and ape.
And about the virus [SPOILER - highlight to read]: mutating or whatever. I don't entirely understand that, because didn't they all already have the virus? So wouldn't it either mutate or not? Why did they have to be concerned about "catching" it again?. That just seemed a little too convenient to help explain the original film.
But anyway, I'll have to see the film again to really wrap my head about more of it. But I really enjoyed it initially.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: It just seems a little oddly convenient that a virus would really only affect human speech and I guess some other minor cognition. But they had to explain it somehow and it works I suppose.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: I think it being a virus or anything like that is unnecessary. After centuries of subjugation and slavery, I could see human beings losing their language and evolving to be “sub-human”. Personally, I find that to also be far more reasonable then “a virus did it”.
That occurred to me, too. But I'm still not sure if it's something that would be lost in such a short period of time, relatively speaking. About 2,000 years, right?
But yeah, I thought that maybe [SPOILER - highlight to read]: it wasn't the virus, but this little girl who just happened to be dumb would somehow be the genetic arbiter for humanity's future. That turned out not to be the case.
Hoping they will touch on the schism between the Gorillas and Chimps in the next movie.
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Enjoyed it, though it was the weakest of the trilogy.
Did like that they used the name "Nova" as a shout-out to the original film. Also didn't mind the [SPOILER - highlight to read]: virus mutation explanation, it fit with this new theme overall.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: So was there some reason that the Colonel didn't kill Caesar when he was captured? Did I miss something? Did he just figure, well, he came here peacefully, let's see what I can get out of him? He didn't even try to interrogate him. I mean, his main concern was the human army coming for him at that point, so I guess he didn't figure one ape, even the leader, could be much of a threat. But still...
Killing him would have likely resulted in a revolt, while keeping him as a broken prisoner served a moral breaker for the other prisoners. How I took it. Even though he planned to murder them all once the work was done.
that one ape i didn't have a problem with its comedic moments, Been hearing people compare him to Jar Jar Bink he wasn't quite that bad
also if they're trying to tie these new movies into the old ones, Still need to explain the people that we see in 'Beneath the Planet of the Apes' with their telepathy abilities.
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