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Darth Vader (RotJ) vs. novel Vitiate
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Darth Vader (RotJ) vs. novel Vitiate

They start three meters apart.


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From three meters?


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Based on what feats? At that distance Revan Reborn may have butchered him.


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*Shrug*

I'm of the mind that Vitiate's reaction speed is significantly hampered due to his focus on his more esoteric abilities.

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Well, Vitiate couldn't have gathered the energy for his TK wave or Storm, so he'd probably have to rely on Revan deflecting his bolts to push him further back lol.

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I honestly think Vader wins this.

- novel Vitiate has pretty much no remarkable feats off a nexus.
- He also wasn't able to overcome Revan (even on a nexus) without taking time to power up an attack, which he won't really have time to do here.
- the three meters starting distance puts Vitiate like a half second away from Vader's blade.
- Vitiate's reflexes are called into question given his disarming by Meetra.


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Vitiate.


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Vitiate didn't seem particularly concerned about being inches away from the HoT's blade on Dromund Kaas, so I doubt the starting distance is that big a deal.


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Vitiate didn't seem particularly concerned about being inches away from the HoT's blade on Dromund Kaas, so I doubt the starting distance is that big a deal.


Well...he wasn't exactly smart considering he was moving into melee range as he was blasting Force Lighting, a ranged attack.


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I was talking about the very beginning of the fight, but yeah he's dumb.


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I was talking about the very beginning of the fight, but yeah he's dumb.


I know, but I'm just saying.


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Vitiate without much difficulty.

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Originally posted by Beniboybling
Vitiate didn't seem particularly concerned about being inches away from the HoT's blade on Dromund Kaas, so I doubt the starting distance is that big a deal.


Yeah, but this time we have an earlier version without a nexus and against a much more powerful foe.


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I honestly think Vader wins this.

- novel Vitiate has pretty much no remarkable feats off a nexus.
- He also wasn't able to overcome Revan (even on a nexus) without taking time to power up an attack, which he won't really have time to do here.
- the three meters starting distance puts Vitiate like a half second away from Vader's blade.
- Vitiate's reflexes are called into question given his disarming by Meetra.

- The dude doesn't leave his capital planet, which turned into a nexus as a result of his use of the Force, this doesn't outright suggest weakness to me.
- This fighting scene has been discussed so many times. Nothing that happens before the end overwrites the fact that Vitiate overwhelmed him with a single attack at the end.
- Vitiate's assumed vulnerability in close range never seems to threaten him. You can argue that he is simply that stupid or reckless (which doesn't make sense at all) but after his fight with Revan, he seems to be more cautious when approaching his enemies even with full power, yet when weakened and in the middle of executing his millennia old life goal, he still walks up to HoT's saber as Beni said.
- He wasn't paying attention, tbh.


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Vitiate.


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We honestly didn't see enough of Novel Vitiate to reach a consensus on this fight, imo.


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- The dude doesn't leave his capital planet, which turned into a nexus as a result of his use of the Force, this doesn't outright suggest weakness to me.


I'm just not very impressed by his struggling with Revan when he had a nexus described for its amazing power on multiple occasions on his side.

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- This fighting scene has been discussed so many times. Nothing that happens before the end overwrites the fact that Vitiate overwhelmed him with a single attack at the end.


Yeah, but he doesn't have the distance to charge up such an attack here. His off-the-hip attacks did nothing to Revan.

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- Vitiate's assumed vulnerability in close range never seems to threaten him. You can argue that he is simply that stupid or reckless (which doesn't make sense at all) but after his fight with Revan, he seems to be more cautious when approaching his enemies even with full power, yet when weakened and in the middle of executing his millennia old life goal, he still walks up to HoT's saber as Beni said.


Vader >> HoT.

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- He wasn't paying attention, tbh.


Ehhh maybe. But the overall impression of Vitiate's combat awareness isn't very good, and given his precarious starting position, it puts him in a pinch.


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