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SOR Revan vs Darth Tenebrous
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Petrus
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Revan really isn't that far from Plagueis at all, so saying Tenebrous 'wins decisively' isn't logical.

What do we truly have on Tenebrous other than his RoT standing, which doesn't necessarily mean much considering Plagueis increased significantly in power throughout the novel? If Teneb wins, it'd be after a grueling battle.


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[B]Revan really isn't that far from Plagueis at all, so saying Tenebrous 'wins decisively' isn't logical.


Except when Revan's being one-shot by Plagueis' inferiors then yes, it's logical.

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What do we truly have on Tenebrous other than his RoT standing, which doesn't necessarily mean much considering Plagueis increased significantly in power throughout the novel? If Teneb wins, it'd be after a grueling battle.


Prove first that the "significant" power increase places Plagueis so far above Tenebrous that he'd be in the one-shot range. Then, and only then, is Tenebrous on Revan's level.


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Except when Revan's being one-shot by Plagueis' inferiors then yes, it's logical.


Plagueis' inferiors?


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Plagueis' inferiors?


Novel Vitiate and Valkorion


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Yeah except that the Revan Vitiate defeated isn't prime Revan and also he cheap-shotted him via Scourge's betrayal.

And Valkorion isn't Plagueis' inferior, lol. At least definitely not Forcewise.


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Yeah except that the Revan Vitiate defeated isn't prime Revan and also he cheap-shotted him via Scourge's betrayal.


Revan got one-shot by Vitiate's lightning storm. And neither is novel Vitiate prime Vitiate. If you want to prove SoR Revan can go toe-to-toe with planetaries, feel free to do so.

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And Valkorion isn't Plagueis' inferior, lol. At least definitely not Forcewise.


Until someone debunks Ell's post, he is.


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Revan got one-shot by Vitiate's lightning storm.

Stupidity at its finest.


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I think basic comprehension skills are the words you're looking for.


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Tbh.


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Except when Revan's being one-shot by Plagueis' inferiors then yes, it's logical.

Vitiate is not Plagueis's inferior, you numbskull.

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Prove first that the "significant" power increase places Plagueis so far above Tenebrous that he'd be in the one-shot range. Then, and only then, is Tenebrous on Revan's level.

Darth Plagueis isn't one-shotting someone like Revan.

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Stupidity at its finest.


Oh, I fully agree. Terrible book. However, it still happened and we must accept that:

A dozen bolts of purple lightning arced from the Emperor toward him. Revan tried to draw them in and contain them, but the Emperor was infinitely more powerful than Darth Nyriss had ever been.

Revan’s body was engulfed in agony as the electricity coursed through his body. His skin began to boil and blister, the flesh of his face meltiing and sticking to the superheated metal of his mask as the Emperor poured more and more power into him.

Through the haze of indescribable pain, he saw T3-M4 rushing in to help him. The droid let loose with his flamethrower, bathing the Emperor in fire. at the last instant the Emperor cocooned himself in the Force to save himself from being incinerated, breaking his focus on Revan.

The Jedi collapsed to the ground, burned but still alive, the hilt of his extinguished lightsaber lying on the floor less than a meter beyond his grasp.


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Vitiate is not Plagueis's inferior, you numbskull.


laughing out loud
Someone's in denial.

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Darth Plagueis isn't one-shotting someone like Revan.


Vitiate did and he's <<< Plagueis.


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laughing out loud
Someone's in denial.



Vitiate did and he's <<< Plagueis.

No, you are in denial. You are taking a subjective marketing statement at face value for it. Another marketing statement asserts that Darth Plagueis achieved absolute mastery over life and death which is bullshit as well. It seems like the relevant publisher did not even bother to study the novel, and slapped bold claims over the book cover in order to attract audience and fool the gullible.

Vitiate, by virtue of power-scaling and feats >>> Darth Plagueis. He might be stronger than Palpatine as well.

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That blurb isn't canonical, or JA Exar Kun is potentially > DE Sidious.


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That blurb isn't canonical, or JA Exar Kun is potentially > DE Sidious.

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Jedi Academy only says if Kyp and Exar Kun work together they might become the worst enemy the New Republic has faced. Given how Kyp's potential ~ Leia's and Luke's, and adding Kun plus the Sun Crusher to that would certainly be ahead of just Palpatine alone.

So far, I fail to see why novella blurbs shouldn't be considered canon. Or why an anecdotal fallacy would immediately cancel out every other blurb outright.


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Because the blubs aren't created by any actual creative authority. Some intern wrote them up to sell books. There are numerous occasions when they outright contradict the book. erm


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Blurbs are created to give an idea of what the book is about, in which case they apply to the characters within the book itself. And LucasArts confirmed it, so whether an intern or an author wrote it, a higher authority confirmed and allowed it.


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Nephthys
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Pretty sure they've confirmed nothing. The authors send the book to Del Rey and then they write the blurb up and publish it without any input from Lucasarts. A SW writer has confirmed this and stated that any blurb should essentially be ignored as it has no connection to anyone writing for SW itself.


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LucasArt's statement >>> Drew's opinion, lmao.


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