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Lol'd hard at Plagueis having it easier than Vitiate because "science is more advanced in his era".

It's Star Wars. The technology barely changes.

And that's not what allowed him to manipulate midichlorians.

Also what Vitiate did wasn't midichlorian manipulation. All he did was add on to his life force. Plagueis achieved real self-sustainability, something the ancients weren't even close to achieving, hence the need for massive rituals and the constant need for essence transfer.


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Exar Kun > Palpatine confirmed.

Could I see the quote, please.
As far as I know, it means that Exar+Kyp+Sun Crusher ???>??? Sidious.

Also, even if it would say Exar > Sidious, it was reconnected- Plagueis supremacy quote wasn't.


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Given that TPM Palpatine is factually more powerful than Vitiate, I don't see what's so incredulous about Plagueis being more powerful than Vitiate also. Even the TORies have to admit that it's a real possibility.

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Originally posted by Ursumeles
Could I see the quote, please.
As far as I know, it means that Exar+Kyp+Sun Crusher ???>??? Sidious.

Also, even if it would say Exar > Sidious, it was reconnected- Plagueis supremacy quote wasn't.


Additionally, it refers to what they might become, i.e. Kyp would be a Dark Side GM Luke and Exar Kun would return to his physical form, with all his trinkets and knowledge and prep time. Plus the Sun Crusher which can wipe out any army pretty casually.

And even then, it only lists it as a possibility, not a confirmed fact. And Sheev has other quotes that retcon it, even if it were a confirmed fact. AP is just reaching for high heavens, as always.


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Additionally, it refers to what they might become, i.e. Kyp would be a Dark Side GM Luke and Exar Kun would return to his physical form, with all his trinkets and knowledge and prep time. Plus the Sun Crusher which can wipe out any army pretty casually.

And even then, it only lists it as a possibility, not a confirmed fact. And Sheev has other quotes that retcon it, even if it were a confirmed fact. AP is just reaching for high heavens, as always.

Yeah, I know.
Ngl, DS Full potential Kyp alone would prolly be > Sidious, lol.


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If he reaches his potential, yeah.


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Additionally, it refers to what they might become, i.e. Kyp would be a Dark Side GM Luke and Exar Kun would return to his physical form, with all his trinkets and knowledge and prep time. Plus the Sun Crusher which can wipe out any army pretty casually.

And even then, it only lists it as a possibility, not a confirmed fact. And Sheev has other quotes that retcon it, even if it were a confirmed fact. AP is just reaching for high heavens, as always.


LMFAO.

I've debunked this argument twice and yet again you're attempting to peddle it. It states that Exar Kun and Kyp Durron, even moreso than the aforementioned Sun Crusher, could become the greatest threat the NR has ever faced.

The relationship of Kun and Kyp is very clearly defined as a spirit leeching energy off of a host to fuel its own far greater power.

If you're able to comprehend the actual statement, it isn't just Reborn Palpatine, it is him and his Dark Empire, including all of his Dark Jedi. It is referring to every threat the NR had faced until then. Not specifically moreso than any single person. Palpatine is simply one amongst many.

And no, his statements don't mean a thing, because first of all he's already dead. Second of all, this is in reference to a potentially resurrected Exar Kun in Jedi Academy. Where said statements bare no relevance, because it is a theoretical character.

Not that this is the point, anyway.


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Are you going to provide the quote AP or what?

EDIT: Lol read it and it's irrelevant, wouldn't bother debating it with AP considering she'll only cling to the idea that Kyp is irrelevant to Kun, and it's framed as only a possibility regardless.

More than evidence to the contrary though given Palpatine canonically > Kun. thumb up


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So, this obviously does not refers to Fighting ability, but political power.


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Hurr durr.

Srs tho this puts lid on the Kyp debate as far as I'm concerned. laughing out loud


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Kyp doesn't have to be irrelevant for your claims to be laughably contradictory to the facts stated in the Jedi Academy Sourcebook. But this is you we're talking about.


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Claims? The blurb is factual dear.


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The blurb also has context.


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Mmm, so to be clear Kyp may have been strong enough to bridge the gap across Kun<Vitiate<Plagueis<ROTS/ROTJ Palpatine<DE Palpatine, and his Dark Empire in addition as well.

"Feeble" lmao. laughing out loud


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Beni, you forgot RotS Sids.


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Tru edited.


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Heck, there's even TPM Palpatine.

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Tru edited.

Not RotS/RotJ Sidious, mah frind!
EoTPM Sidious < RotS Sidious < RotJ Sidious < DE Sidious


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Lol too late.


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Ur mum.


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