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Defenders vs. Superman / Thor

Classic Strange and Surfer vs. Superman and Thor.

Random encounter. Both teams believe they need to win for the greater good.


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Strange and Surfer take this

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Strange is too much imo.


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Strange solos


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Strange solos

That's rubbish.


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^^^Not with BFR on the table.
OP didnt caveat against it. Strange is better than Thor at it.


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Nah, he's not.

Superman doesn't have any defense against it though, so that'd be an easy win.


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Strange solos
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Classic Strange and Surfer vs. Superman and Thor.

Random encounter. Both teams believe they need to win for the greater good.


Sorry gents. No BFR.


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^^^wow, thats some bullshit.

Okay, we'll do it the old fashioned way.

Surfer energy drain FTW against Superman.
Then its two on one against Thor.
Surfer and Strange victorious.


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Next last minute caveat: no energy drain.


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Thor could counter the drain I believe.

Or do the opposite, pump Superman with solar energy. Alternatively open up a portal to the surface of the sun by Superman and give him infinite energy.

That actually sounds like a pretty solid strategy now that I think about it.


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^^^wow, thats some bullshit.

Okay, we'll do it the old fashioned way.

Surfer energy drain FTW against Superman.
Then its two on one against Thor.
Surfer and Strange victorious.


Surfer won't be able to drain Superman.
1. He won't have time, Superman is pretty fast
2. He will have to touch Superman
3. He will not think of it mid battle.

Strange is tough though. The teams only chance is to use speed. A good offense would be a good defense.


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Thats all well and good but this thread turned to crap as soon as the OP was changed for obvious reasons. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Rather than (keep) bitching though, i'll just say i'm sticking with my pick.
You guys have fun with it. thumb up


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Surfer won't be able to drain Superman.
1. He won't have time, Superman is pretty fast
2. He will have to touch Superman
3. He will not think of it mid battle.

Strange is tough though. The teams only chance is to use speed. A good offense would be a good defense.


He doesnt need to touch him. He's just as fast.


Defenders solely due to classic strange being trans not high herald


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He doesnt need to touch him. He's just as fast.


Defenders solely due to classic strange being trans not high herald
Of course he does. Otherwise he would have several feats of draining high Herald level characters without touching them.

He's not as fast in combat.
Even if he was just as fast then it still won't work. He have to be a lot faster. Superman can pounce him less than a nanosecond. Surfers not doing anything exotic in less than a nanosecond.

Strange has a weakness. He's not fast in the beginning of a fight. He will be frozen in time to Superman the moment the fight begins.


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Of course he does. Otherwise he would have several feats of draining high Herald level characters without touching them.

He's not as fast in combat.
Even if he was just as fast then it still won't work. He have to be a lot faster. Superman can pounce him less than a nanosecond. Surfers not doing anything exotic in less than a nanosecond.

Strange has a weakness. He's not fast in the beginning of a fight. He will be frozen in time to Superman the moment the fight begins.


Im not gonna argue with you and your made up fanfic speed shit. Surfer is fast enough if you doubt it check his respect thread. Speed is not the determining factor it's stranges magic. Plus he has auto shields so theres that.


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Im not gonna argue with you and your made up fanfic speed shit. Surfer is fast enough if you doubt it check his respect thread. Speed is not the determining factor it's stranges magic. Plus he has auto shields so theres that.
Prove that Surfer can absorb someone completely in less than a microsecond. Prove that Surfer can drain someone without touching them in less than 5 seconds. Surfer was absorbing Firelords energy through the aura he was emitting. That is his only feat of draining a Herald level being without touching them.

I know about Strange's autoshields. Everyone does. Yet I still said what I said. Why?

Because Strange's autoshields are not strong enough to fend off Superman. Superman casually busts GL shields (which are arguably stronger than Strange's autoshields).

As far as speed Surfer is fast but Superman's feats of doing actions in a short time trumps Surfer's feats. For example, Superman has walked around, took off his tie casually, and had an entire conversation in a fraction of a nanosecond.


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That's rubbish.


You could be right. He might have some trouble with Thor.


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Prove that Surfer can absorb someone completely in less than a microsecond. Prove that Surfer can drain someone without touching them in less than 5 seconds. Surfer was absorbing Firelords energy through the aura he was emitting. That is his only feat of draining a Herald level being without touching them.

I know about Strange's autoshields. Everyone does. Yet I still said what I said. Why?

Because Strange's autoshields are not strong enough to fend off Superman. Superman casually busts GL shields (which are arguably stronger than Strange's autoshields).

As far as speed Surfer is fast but Superman's feats of doing actions in a short time trumps Surfer's feats. For example, Superman has walked around, took off his tie casually, and had an entire conversation in a fraction of a nanosecond.


Speed is never a deciding factor in these type of fights. Youve been here long enough i shouldnt need to prove anything. Go look at his respect thread if you dont think he's fast. Micro, macro, pico bullshit thats just pointless conjecture and goes against 99% of his showings but hey you arent gonna change. The speed argument is fail here so debate a different relevant point please.

Strange autoshields are sufficient enough he wont get one shot. He could arguably take these two alone but meh thats another debate.


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